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[00:00:19]

BEING HELD FOR THE PURPOSE

[1a. PUBLIC HEARING - Conduct a public hearing regarding amendments to the City of Baytown Charter.]

OF GIVING ALL INTERESTED PERSONS THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS REGARDING AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF BAYTOWN CHARTER, EVERYONE DESIRING TO TO BE A PART OF TODAY'S HEARING SHOULD HAVE EITHER SIGNED THE APPROPRIATE LIST IN THE FOYER OR EMAILED THE CITY CLERK PRIOR TO THE POSTED TIME OF THIS MEETING.

EACH PARTICIPANT SHALL GIVE HIS OR HER NAME AND ADDRESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A PROPER RECORD OF THIS HEARING.

THE RULES ALLOW EACH PERSON THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT INFORMATION.

HOWEVER, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BE AS BRIEF AND TO THE POINT AS POSSIBLE.

IF YOU ARE A GROUP OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNSEL ON THE SAME SUBJECT, PLEASE SELECT THE SPOKESPERSON TO PRESENT THE INFORMATION.

AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE DIRECT THEM TO ME.

I WOULD NOW LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE CITY STAFF PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW AND SUMMARIZE THE SUBJECT OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

GOOD EVENING COMMITTEE MEMBERS, I WANTED TO, UM, JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW AND THE PUBLIC BRIEF OVERVIEW OF OUR CHARTER.

AS YOU'RE AWARE, THAT CHARTER IS THE CONSTITUTION OF THE CITY.

IT PROVIDES THE FREEDOM OF THE, THE ELECTORS TO CHOOSE HOW THEY'RE GOVERNED AND WHAT POWERS AND AUTHORITY THAT THE CITY HAS.

UM, THE POWERS AND AUTHORITIES CANNOT BE CONSISTENT, INCONSISTENT WITH THAT, THAT'S PRESCRIBED BY STATE LAW, EITHER THE CONSTITUTION OR ITS STATUTES.

UM, OUR CHARTER WAS CURRENT, WAS ADOPTED IN 1948.

SINCE THAT TIME HAS BEEN AMENDED SIX TIMES.

UM, AND OVER THAT TIME WE'VE TOUCHED 61% OF THE, THE ENTIRE CHARTER.

SO THE LAST CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE WAS IN 2018, AND THEY REVIEWED THE ENTIRE CHARTER AND A LOT OF THE AMENDMENTS DID GO FORWARD.

THE ONLY ONES THAT DIDN'T, THAT YOU HAVE CONSIDERED IS YOUR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS JUST TO, TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT A, UH, A MATTER IS CONSIDERED, AN ORDINANCE IS CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IS COMPLIANT.

SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR OUR, UM, OUR ANNEXATIONS AND THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR OUR FRANCHISES.

SO THERE'S A SECTION THAT DIDN'T CAPTURE BOTH OF THOSE SECTIONS.

IT ONLY CAPTURED ONE.

SO WE'VE, UH, ONE OF THE CHANGES YOU'RE PROPOSING IS TO MAKE THAT CONSISTENT.

SOME OTHER CHANGES THAT YOU'VE LOOKED AT ARE FIN TERM LIMITS, WHICH, UM, IS IN YOUR FINAL REPORT, A DRAFT OF YOUR FINAL REPORT, UM, AS WELL AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENTS TO REMOVE THE CONSOLIDATION.

SO COUNSEL CAN, BY ORDINANCE, CONSOLIDATE DEPARTMENTS AS APPROPRIATE.

UM, IF THE CHARTER CAN BE MENDED NO MORE THAN, UM, EVERY OTHER YEAR NO MORE OFTEN OR IS WHAT IT SAYS IN THE CONSTITUTION FOR TWO YEARS.

AND, UH, THIS CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE HAS GONE OVER THE CHARTER AND, UM, WE'RE NOW AT THE POINT OF A PUBLIC HEARING AND GETTING TOWARDS THE END OF, OF, UH, THE REVIEW.

AND SO THAT'S, UH, WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

TODAY, WE DID, DID SCHEDULE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

AND, UM, LET'S GONNA TELL YOU ALL THE DIFFERENT OUTREACH EFFORTS THAT WE, WE, UH, UNDERTOOK IN ORDER TO GET YOU TO HAVE SOME MORE PUBLIC INPUT.

OKAY.

UM, SO WE HAVE PUT OUT YOUR PLACES THE ENGLISH VERSION OF THE, UM, KIND OF FLYER THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER.

UM, WE POSTED THIS, UH, WE CREATED THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE PAGE.

WE POSTED THIS INFORMATION ON THE PAGE IN ALL OF THE LANGUAGES.

WE HAD OUR PUBLIC AFFAIRS PERSON PUT THIS OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

IT PUBLISHED EVERY THIRD DAY THROUGH, UH, AT LEAST ONCE A DAY WOW.

WITH ALL THE INFORMATION IN THE FOUR LANGUAGES.

WE WORKED WITH OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH COORDINATOR, SABRINA, AND WE CREATED A PAGE ON THE BAYTOWN ENGAGE WEBPAGE.

WE PUT THE SAME INFORMATION OUT THERE OF THIS INFORMATION THAT CREATED A VERY SMALL KIND OF FAQA QUICK CATCH SO PEOPLE COULD SEE IT.

UM, AND WE HAD 78 PEOPLE CLICK ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE, BAYTOWN ENGAGE PAGE OF THAT.

WE HAD 13 PEOPLE THAT READ THROUGH THE STUFF, AND WE HAD FOUR PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY SUBMITTED RESPONSES.

WE HAVE PLACED THOSE AT YOUR PLACE.

UM, AND, UH, FROM WHAT YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE FOUR PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED, UH, WERE IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED, UH, AMENDMENTS THAT WERE NOTED.

THE ITEMS THAT THEY HAD THAT WERE ADDITIONAL ITEMS WERE REALLY OUTSIDE

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OF THE SCOPE OF A CHARTER.

IT WAS MORE, UM, OPERATIONAL, UH, SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING LIVESTOCK AND CHICKENS IN THE CITY LIMITS, OR, UM, HOW DO WE GET INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC, BETTER COMMUNICATION DURING PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES, THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO, UM, WE, WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT CITIZENS HAD ENOUGH TIME TO EMAIL, CALL OUR OFFICE.

WE ALSO PAID FOR THE ADVERTISEMENT OF THIS FLYER IN THE BAYTOWN SUN ON A SUNDAY, THREE CONSECUTIVE WEEKS IN A ROW, SO THAT WE COULD PREPARE, UM, THE PUBLIC FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING FORUM TO EITHER SUBMIT COMMENTS TO US AND OR, UM, COME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THAT IS THE BULK OF THE OUTREACH EFFORTS.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

I JUST, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.

I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.

I DID SEE, UM, I DID SEE THE EFFORTS ON THE CITY'S THE WEBPAGE, AND I ALSO SAW THE BAYTOWN ENGAGE.

I WAS REALLY, UH, GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

UM, AND THE, THE, OR GLAD TO SEE THAT THE BAYTOWN ENGAGE.

IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS REALLY SIMPLE, UM, TO FOLLOW AND THEN MAKE YOUR COMMENT.

SO, UM, YES MA'AM.

AND IT, AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE METRICS SO THAT EVERY CLICK, EVERY DOWNLOAD, WE, WE WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE METRICS SO WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT 78 PEOPLE SAW IT, YET FOUR PEOPLE ACTUALLY TOOK THE TIME, DECIDED TO COMMENT, TO RESPOND, AND HIT SUBMIT.

YES, MA'AM.

YEAH.

I, I THINK YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB.

I, WE DID WHAT YOU DID WHAT WE COULD DO.

RIGHT.

AND DID, UH, FOLLOW UP.

WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK VIA ZOOM OR IN PERSON.

AND WE HAVE NO OTHER COMMENTS SUBMITTED TO OUR OFFICE ON THIS ITEM.

OKAY.

SO THERE BEING NO ONE ELSE IS ARGUING TO SPEAK.

UM, I NOW CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY OF BAYTOWN CHARTER.

AND WITH THAT, WE'LL

[2a. BUSINESS ITEMS - Discuss and consider the Charter Review Committee's final report of proposed charter amendments]

MOVE TO AGENDA ITEM TWO A, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE'S FINAL REPORT OF PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENTS.

SO, UM, WITH THE WINTER EVENT THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK, UM, WE TRIED TO GET YOU, UH, A DRAFT OF, UH, PRETTY MUCH WHAT THE PREVIOUS COMMITTEES HAD SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL WITH, KIND OF UPDATED A LITTLE BIT.

UM, WE HAD SOME, UH, TYPOS AND WE HAD SOME DATA THAT NEEDED TO BE UPDATED.

SO MS. HORNER TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND THERE IS A, AN UPDATED DRAFT AT YOUR PLACES.

UM, WE ARE, WE ARE PRETTY MUCH AT THE END OF THE, OF THE PROCESS, UH, OF, OF LOOKING OVER THE AMENDMENTS.

UM, THIS IS THE CULMINATION, OR THE REPORT IS THE CULMINATION OF THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE.

UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE IT REALLY IS.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANNA DO? DO YOU WANT TO LOOK IT OVER TONIGHT IN, IN DETAIL SO THAT WE FINISH UP AND SUBMIT IT TO COUNSEL? OR DO YOU WANT TO, UM, TAKE IT WITH YOU, LOOK IT OVER, AND THEN COME BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH WHATEVER CHANGES OR COMMENTS THAT YOU GUYS WANT? AND THEN WE WILL TAKE IT TO COUNSEL AFTER THAT.

YOU'VE JUST DONE YOUR WORK AND YOU'VE DONE IT EFFICIENTLY AND NOW IT'S, WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT TO DO? I'D BE ALL RIGHT WITH VOTING ON THIS.

I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT ON THE REPORT.

YES, SIR.

SUBMITTED.

I DON'T SEE WHERE WE HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT THOMAS PARENTS SUGGESTED AMENDMENT HERE ON THE, UH, NUMBER FOR RECALL.

I, OR AM I JUST MISSING IT? 'CAUSE THERE WAS A SIXTH ONE.

YOU KNOW WHAT? I WILL ADD THAT.

OKAY.

I'LL ADD IT.

'CAUSE WE DID, WE DID VOTE ON IT.

I JUST HADN'T ADDED, I WILL ADD THAT AND I WOULD PUT IT AT THE END AND APPENDIX TWO THAT LIST EVERYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE VOTE.

IS THAT OKAY? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT BELONGS.

THAT WAS A UNANIMOUS MM-HMM .

FORWARD, I THINK.

MM-HMM .

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

UM, MADAM CHAIRMAN, IF YOU NEED A MOTION, I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS REPORT AS SUGGESTED AMENDMENT.

I SECOND WELL, UH, TIME OUT.

YES, SIR.

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DISCUSSION HERE.

AS, AS I READ THE AMENDMENT.

UH, THE, THE REPORT, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT WE VOTED ON UNLESS I MISSED A MEETING.

MAYBE I DID THAT THERE WAS A VOTE ON THE, UH, TERM LIMITS AND IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THAT WAS THE LAST MEETING.

YEAH.

THE LAST, YEAH.

WE DID VOTE ON THAT.

MM-HMM .

WE DID.

AND I THINK EVERYBODY WAS HERE.

YEAH.

THAT ONE WAS VOTED ON, SIR.

WE DID.

OKAY.

I DON'T REMEMBER VOTING FOR IT.

IF YOU TELL ME.

I DID, I DID.

'CAUSE I KNOW YOU RECORDED IT, BUT IT'S NOT MY INTENTION TO VOTE FOR IT, BUT OKAY.

EVERYBODY, WE DON'T, I DON'T, WE COULD HAVE NOT HEARD YOU, SIR.

I CAN.

WELL, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK THE VOTE WAS ACTUALLY, UH, GEARED, NOT NECESSARILY FART AGAINST IT WAS THE, BUT WAS IT THE SENATE TO COUNCIL MM-HMM .

FOR THEM TO CONSIDER IT.

YEAH.

THAT NOT EVERYBODY AT THE BOARD WAS FARTED AGAINST IT, BUT IT WAS THE SENATE TO COUNCIL FOR THEM TO CONSIDER IT, TO GET IT ON A PUBLIC VOTE.

RIGHT.

THAT THE CITIZENS DECIDED, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE VOTED TO SEND IT TO COUNSEL.

OKAY.

SAY SO THAT'S TRUE.

AND THAT DOESN'T BRING THE QUESTION.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY MINUTES.

DO WE HAVE ANY I DON'T, I HAVEN'T FINISHED THOSE MINUTES.

OKAY.

WE, WE GOT INTERRUPTED THIS WEEK.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, I WAS GONNA LOOK AT THE MINUTES TO SEE ABOUT THAT.

I, I, IT'S OKAY, MR. MAYO.

I'LL BE, IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER VOTING FOR IT, THEN I WILL LOOK THE MINUTES AND I WILL CORRECT THAT IN THE REPORT.

WELL, I'M, I'M ASSUMING THAT, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE MINUTES SAY THAT IF THE MINUTES SAY THAT, THEN THEY MAY SAY THAT, BUT I'M THINKING MAYBE THERE WAS A, A DIFFICULTY IN THE ZOOM OR SOMETHING.

I KNOW WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T DO A YES WE AGREE OR NO, WE DIDN'T AGREE.

'CAUSE WE STILL WOULD'VE BEEN SPLIT ON THAT.

MM-HMM .

IT WASN'T, IT WAS STILL GONNA BE SPLIT NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES WE SAID THAT.

MM-HMM .

BUT I REMEMBER US SAYING, LET COUNCIL DECIDE THIS.

IT'S NOT IF WE AGREE, WE JUST ARE GONNA AGREE TO SEND IT TO COUNCIL.

LET THEM FIGURE IT OUT.

THAT'S HOW I REMEMBER IT.

YEAH.

ACTUALLY, THAT'S HOW I REMEMBER IT.

YEAH.

ACTUALLY IT WAS, LET US SEND IT TO COUNCIL SO THEY CAN SEND IT FOR A PUBLIC VOTE.

THEY SO DESIRE.

YEAH.

MY COMMENT.

WELL, I MEAN, EVERYTHING WE DO, I WOULD AT LEAST EVERYTHING.

YEAH.

MY COMMENT WAS I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE, AT LEAST ONCE TO LET THE PUBLIC GET A CHANCE TO DECIDE ON THIS.

BECAUSE IT'S BEEN PROPOSED MANY TIMES.

WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT EVERYTHING WE DO IS THAT WAY THAT WE SEND IT TO COUNSEL.

THAT'S TRUE.

TO BE DETERMINED WHETHER THEY WANT TO SEND IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS NOT MY INTENTION TO VOTE FOR THAT IF THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

BUT IF THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED AND HAPPENED, YOUR MINUTES REFLECT THAT.

I UNDERSTAND.

EVIDENTLY THERE WAS, I MISUNDERSTOOD THE, WHAT WE WERE DOING OR SOMETHING.

'CAUSE I KNOW IT WAS DIFFICULT SOMETIMES WITH THE ZOOM YES, SIR.

TO GET EVERYTHING PERFECT.

AND MY ONE VOTE DOESN'T MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE.

BUT DOES IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE? I KNOW, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S FINET WORRY ABOUT.

I'LL REFLECT THAT.

WOULD IT BE, WOULD IT BE CORRECT TO AMEND THE MINUTES TO SHOW THAT HE DID NOT VOTE FOR THAT TO BE MOVED FORWARD AND LET BE ON THE MINUTES? I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T WRITTEN THEM YET.

OH, OKAY.

BUT I MEAN, I CAN MAKE, I CAN NOTE IT WITHIN THE REPORT.

SO WE COULD ALSO TAKE A VOTE FOR OR AGAINST THE AMENDMENT IF I KNOW WE DID.

BUT YOU WANT RATHER THAN JUST WAS DESIRE OF THE COMMITTEE.

RIGHT.

SO SHE JUST NEEDS TO CHANGE THIS PART.

DID YOU HEAR THAT MR. MAYO? KAREN SAID THAT WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON? DO YOU WANNA SAY THAT AGAIN, KAREN? WE CAN TAKE A VOTE FOR OR AGAINST THE AMENDMENT.

IT'S, THE VOTE HAS BEEN TO GO AHEAD AND SEND IT ON, BUT WE COULD GO AHEAD AND HAVE, TAKE A VOTE FOR OR AGAINST WHETHER YOU FOR TERM LIMITS OR NOT.

AND WE CAN INCLUDE THAT IN THE REPORT IF DESIRED.

THAT THAT WOULD WORK ANY WAY YOU WANT TO DO IT.

IT'S JUST, MY INTENTION WAS NOT TO VOTE FOR THE PEOPLE ARE NOT HERE SENDING THE AMENDMENT TO THE COUNCIL THAT WE WERE GOING TO.

UH, 'CAUSE I KNOW IT WOULD PASS ANYWAY.

BUT I STILL WAS GONNA GO ON RECORD.

THIS IS MR. MAYO.

UH, MR. MAY HERE.

OH, SO ONE PERSON'S NOT HERE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UH, MS. PRI IS THE ONE THAT'S NOT HERE.

SHE'S THE ONLY ONE.

OKAY.

BUT, UM, SHE WAS, FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THE TERM ON YEAH.

I, I I WOULD JUST CHANGE IT.

THE COMMENT THAT PRESIDENT VOTED UNANIMOUSLY AND CHANGED IT TO THE MAJORITY VOTED TO SENATE TO COUNCIL.

HOWEVER YOU WANT, WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO, MR. MAY, WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT US TO HAVE TO GO BACK 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T, MY VOTE DOESN'T CARRY ANYTHING.

SO I DON'T GUESS IT MATTERS THAT MUCH.

I WAS JUST NOT PLANNING ON VOTING FOR IT.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY VOTED WHEN I READ THAT.

I THOUGHT THAT'S JUST, WE VOTED ON IT AND I DON'T REMEMBER US VOTING AND I DON'T REMEMBER YOU VOTING IN FAVOR OF IT.

BUT SINCE IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IN THE OVERALL OUTCOME, I'M NOT GONNA CAUSE ANY STINK OVER IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.

OKAY.

SO IF THE MINUTES SAY I VOTED FOR IT, THEN PUT ME DOWN THAT I VOTED FOR IT.

DO WE WANNA VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT? I DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT.

I JUST VOTED FOR IT TO GO TO THE 'CAUSE IT DIDN'T MATTER TO ME.

LET THE, SO COUNSEL DO MS. MAYOR, I UNDERSTAND YOUR PERCEPTION IS THAT YOU DON'T WANT COUNSEL TO THINK THAT YOU WERE ACTUALLY SUPPORTING THE CHANGE.

YES.

SAYING AND THERE'S SOME OTHER PEOPLE AND THAT'S, THAT'S, AND ACTUALLY THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN, THAT'S KIND OF HOW THAT COULD

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BE PERCEIVED.

I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT.

YEAH.

'CAUSE YEAH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT HE'S SAYING.

THAT'S, YEAH.

AND I, AND I CERTAINLY COULD UNDERSTAND RELUCTANCE ON THAT.

UM, BECAUSE I DON'T AGREE WITH WELL, THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE.

IF IT WAS SOMETHING WORDED DIFFERENTLY THAN THAT, I JUST MISUNDERSTOOD HOW IT WAS WORDED.

I GUESS IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD GET THE DECISION IN THERE THAT WE WANT THIS TO GO TO COUNCIL THE FOR, SO THAT THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE A CHANCE TO DECIDE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT.

SO, SO I THINK IT WA WELL YOU COULD DO THAT, IS TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE WHETHER YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST THE TERM LIMITS AS PROPOSED.

THAT WILL STAND BY THE DECISION TO MOVE IT FORWARD REGARDLESS.

SO WE'LL KEEP THAT IN HERE.

BUT IF YOU WANNA VOTE WHO IS ACTUALLY FOR AND AGAINST TERM LIMITS, THAT'S A VOTE THAT YOU CAN TAKE TONIGHT.

WE'RE MISSING ONE PERSON.

IS THAT RIGHT? MM-HMM .

AND WE WILL JUST NOTE THAT ONE PERSON WAS ABSENT WHEN THE VOTE WAS TAKEN.

DO THAT, DO WE HAVE A CALL

[2b. Discuss and consider the presentation of the Charter Review Committee's final report to the City Council.]

FOR A VOTE? GOTTA HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A, WAS THAT THE MOTION? .

.

SO A MOTION COULD BE THAT YOU, UM, YOU WANT, YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF THE TERM LIMITS, THE THREE CONSECUTIVE THREE YEAR TERM LIMITS, BUT FOR THE PREVIOUS DECISION TO STAND TO MOVING FORWARD TO COUNSEL.

YES.

OKAY.

UM, ANYONE WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION.

OKAY.

I'LL SECOND IT.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR? UH, JUST MAKE SURE WE KNOW WE'RE VOTING.

SO WE'RE VOTING FOR THE AMENDMENT.

FOR THE AMENDMENT.

I'M STILL CONFUSED.

AND THAT DOES NOT AFFECT THE DECISION TO MOVE IT FORWARD TO COUNSEL.

SO BASICALLY WE'RE VOTING ON WHETHER WE ARE FOR OR NOT AGAINST TERM LIMITS OR SO DO WE NEED TO SAY WE'RE VOTING FOR SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT? THAT WOULD BE I.

OKAY.

I JUST, I UNDERSTAND IT'S CONCERN, SO THAT'S NOT OKAY.

CALL, VOTE.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? AYE.

I'M OPPOSED.

OKAY.

OPPOSED? OPPOSED MAYO AND FRIENDLY AND ABSENT MS. AGAR.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

I WILL MAKE, I WILL ADD THAT TO THE REPORT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

JUST TO COMMENT, BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THE LAST REPORT, DID THEY TYPICALLY INCLUDE THE MINUTES WITH THE FINAL REPORT FROM THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS OR NO, SIR.

THAT'S TYPICALLY DONE, IS IT? NO, SIR.

BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THEM AVAILABLE, UM, ONCE, ONCE THE REPORT GOES AWAY, THEIR PERMANENT RECORD IN, IN OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM ANYWAY.

YEAH.

SO I DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR MR. BEARD IN A SECOND FOR MS. FINLEY TO, UM, APPROVE THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE FINAL REPORT WITH THE NOTED CHANGES OF ADDING THE VOTE THAT WE JUST HAD AND THE, UM, THE PROPOSED, UH, PARENT CHANGE.

IT'S SENDING IT ON.

YEAH.

YES MA'AM.

AND SENDING IT ON TO COUNSEL.

OKAY.

WE HAVE THAT MOTION.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU'RE SENDING THE REPORT ON NOT MR. PARENT'S CHANGE, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU ALL WE NEED THAT.

WE, WE, WE ADDED IN THE REPORT THE ONES THAT WE, ALL OF 'EM THAT WE CONSIDERED.

AND, AND WHETHER WE VOTED TO PASS THEM ON OR NOT, WE CONSIDERED HIS, WE VOTED UNANIMOUSLY NOT TO, NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

I THINK IT SHOULD AT LEAST, I MEAN, WE HAD A PRIVATE SYSTEM COME IN TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT CHANGE.

I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST NOTE IT IN OUR REPORT.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

OKAY.

I JUST NEED A VOTE, MA'AM.

WE JUST NEED, UH, OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND SO, UM, JUST ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION ON THE REPORT, IT SAYS THAT WE'LL PRESENT IT TO COUNSEL ON MAY 13TH.

IT SAYS, WHAT IF WE FINISH UP EVERYTHING TONIGHT, YOU CAN PRESENT IT WHENEVER YOU ALL DESIRE TO.

SO WE CAN CHANGE THAT DATE TO WHENEVER YOU ALL AGREE TO GO TO COUNCIL.

IS THERE ANY PROBLEM WITH PRESENTING IT IN MARCH? YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.

YEAH.

FIRST ONE OR THE SECOND MEETING.

WHEN, WHAT ARE THE DATES? THEY HAVE? THE 11TH AND THE 25TH.

I GUESS THE ISSUE WOULD BE IS ANYBODY HERE WANT TO SEE THE ACTUAL WRITTEN FINAL COPY OF THE REPORT WITH THE CHANGES THAT WE AMENDED TO TONIGHT BEFORE IT GOES? THE ANSWER'S YES.

SAYS IT'S DONE.

IT'LL BE SENT TO YOU.

LET, WILL SEND IT TO YOU.

SO, KENT, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN HAND THAT, UH, THAT MEETING AGAIN? YEAH, I CAN JUST SEND IT TO YOU WITHOUT, SO THEN IF, IF YOU WANT TO SUBMIT THIS IN THE FIRST OR SECOND MEETING IN APRIL, WHAT I WOULD DO IS I WOULD POST A CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING FOR THAT

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COUNCIL MEETING SO YOU GUYS COULD COME IN AND, UH, AND PRESENT THE REPORT TO COUNSEL DIRECTLY.

SO WHAT ARE THE TWO MEETINGS IN MARCH? YOU HAVE THE 11TH AND THE 25TH.

THOSE ARE THURSDAYS, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

OH, I TURNED MY DAMN PHONE OFF YOUR THURSDAYS WHEN THE MEETING START AT SIX 30.

SIX 30.

SO YOU ALL WOULD BE TOWARDS THE FRONT? MAYBE NOT SIX 30.

SIX 30 MM-HMM .

I NEED A SECOND TO CHECK MY CALENDAR.

SO THE 25TH, FOURTH, I THINK SHE SAID THE 24TH.

THAT'S A WEDNESDAY, ISN'T IT? YEAH, 25TH.

2020 FIFTH.

FIFTH.

YEAH.

11TH OR THE 25TH.

UM, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE MY PHONE WITH ME.

I ACTUALLY HAVE A GOOSE CREEK COMMITTEE MEETING THAT NIGHT.

SO, WHICH ONE? I HAVE A GOOSE CREEK SAFETY COMMITTEE THAT MEETING THAT NIGHT.

25TH.

YEAH.

UM, WHICH EITHER WAY IS FINE.

I'D RATHER I I CAN'T MISS THE GOOSE CREEK MEETING SO 11TH IF THEY, I'M READY TO GO WITH IT.

SO IF Y'ALL WANNA DO THE 11TH, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

MR. MAYO, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO? ARE YOU SAYING AM I ALL RIGHT WITH IT? I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN WE DO IT.

'CAUSE I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE RIGHT NOW ANYWAY.

YEAH, I'LL BE THERE.

YOU NEED A MOTION FOR A DATE? YEAH, BECAUSE I, I GUESS I'LL MOVE THAT.

WE SEND THE, COUNT THE REPORT TO COUNCIL ON THE MEETING ON THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 11TH OF MARCH.

OKAY.

I SECOND 2021.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ASSUMING WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE EVENTS, NO MORE.

WINTER SPRING IS COMING.

SPECIAL MOMENTS.

OH MY GOSH.

BECAUSE THE TIME'S SIX 30.

WHAT'S THE DAY? SIX 30? MARCH 11TH.

MARCH 11TH.

I WILL SEND, I GOT MARCH 11TH.

IT'S A THURSDAY.

I'LL SEND YOU A CALENDAR INVITE.

IT'S A THURSDAY.

SIX 30.

WE 36 30.

I GOT TO SIX 30.

OKAY.

CALENDAR INVITE.

OKAY.

MY STUFF WILL DO THE SAME THING.

WE'LL SEND YOU A CALENDAR INVITE.

WE'LL CALL AND REMIND YOU GUYS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LIMITED SEATING.

WE'LL HAVE RESERVED SPACES ONCE WE CONFIRM WHO'S GONNA BE HERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL TAKE CARE OF YOU AT THE COUNCIL MEETING JUST LIKE WE DO FOR, UH, THESE MEETINGS.

BUT LAST TIME, LIKE, UM, WHO'S PRESENTING IT? WHO'S GONNA BE HERE? TYPICALLY SHIPPING THE CHAIR.

IT'S THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.

YEAH.

BUT YEAH, TYPICALLY IT'S THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, BUT I KNOW IF THEY KNEW THAT, THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT THAT UP.

YES, MA'AM.

, UH, SO WE'LL SEND IT TO MS. HAFA THAT MS. LOPEZ ALWAYS BE PREPARED TO, UH, PRESENT IT.

OKAY.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE ONE REALLY STRONG CHAIR THAT PRESENTS IT ON, ON THEIR OWN, AND THEN YOU HAVE, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE THE THEM THAT LIKE TO KIND OF TAG TEAM, UH, THE PRESENTATION.

SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF SHE KNEW THAT.

YEAH, NO, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP, MS. STANLEY.

I DIDN'T WANT HE OR HER.

THE OTHER ONE COULD BE SURPRISED WHEN THEY GET HERE AND WE'RE LIKE, UH OH, HERE WE GO.

I KNEW, I KNEW THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF BRIE REMEMBERED, BUT I REMEMBERED.

AND SO, UM, KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THAT PRESENTATION AS WE WILL HAVE THE REPORT ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM.

SO COUNSEL WILL HAVE IT AT THE TIME OF THE POSTING, UH, BASED ON THE REPORT, WE PUT A VERY SIMPLE, AGAIN, GOING OFF OF WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST, UM, POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT HITS AGAIN THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE COMMITTEE AND WE BROUGHT IT FORWARD SO YOU GUYS CAN, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY YOUR DOCUMENT.

SO IF YOU WANT SOMETHING CHANGED, UH, ADDED OR REMOVED, YOU KNOW, JUST LET ME KNOW.

THEY, THEY STILL WILL SEE THIS DRAFT.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

YES SIR.

IT'S GOING TO BE IN THEIR AGENDA PACKET WHEN WE POST.

SO AGAIN, IT'LL ALSO BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT THE TIME THAT WE POST.

OKAY.

SO WAS THAT TWO A THAT WE WERE JUST DOING? YEAH, YOU, YOU FINISHED TWO A AND NOW YOU'RE AT TWO B.

IT JUST KIND OF MOVED INTO WHEN MS. LEY TALKED ABOUT, WELL, WHO'S GONNA PRESENT THIS? OH, OKAY.

SO

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WELL, SO YOU'RE PRESENTING AND HERE YOU GO.

HERE'S THE POWERPOINT.

IF OTHER, IF THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE THERE, ARE THEY GONNA GET INTRODUCED OR ANYTHING? YES.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEY'RE ALSO GONNA TAKE, YOU GUYS CAN FIELD QUESTIONS.

THAT'S WHY WE GO AHEAD AND POST THE MEETING FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE.

SO YOU WILL, IF YOU, IF YOU ATTEND AND THERE'S A QUORUM, YOU GUYS WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND DISCUSS.

COOL.

BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE, WELL, WHAT WAS YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS? OR WHAT WERE YOU GUYS THINKING? OR, YOU KNOW, WHY THIS AND, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO GIVE YOUR OPINION.

RIGHT.

SO, OKAY.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S ALL ON OUR AGENDA.

WE NEED A MEETING TO ADJOURN NOW A MINUTE.

ANYTHING ELSE DO YOU WANT? COULD, UM, WHY DON'T, IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE POWERPOINT AND MAKE SURE IT IS WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE AND THEN VOTE ON THAT TO HAVE IT PRESENTED TO COUNSEL.

OKAY.

THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE DOING.

ALRIGHT.

I, I DID SEE A QUESTION FROM THE ENGAGED SURVEY WHERE YES, SIR MS. CUMMINS HAD PROBLEM WITH THE TERM LIMITS STATING IT ONLY ALLOWED THE MAYOR TO SERVE ONE TERM.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS IN OUR PROPOSED AMENDMENT.

VERY CLEARLY IT SAYS, YEAH, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING ON ON, AND WE UNDERSTOOD WE'RE I WAS, I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TODAY, BUT I WAS GONNA REACH OUT TO HER TO LET HER, TO LET HER KNOW IT WAS, IT WAS THAT SUMMARY ON THE BAYTOWN ENGAGE SITE MM-HMM .

THE SUMMARY WAS VERY SUMMARIZED.

YES.

SO VERY, VERY SUMMARIZED.

VERY, VERY SUMMARIZED.

YES.

SO, UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE, UH, WHEN I WAS WORKING WITH, IT'S THAT BALANCE BETWEEN, UH, CATCHING PEOPLE'S ATTENTION AND SHOWING THE FOLD.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE LIKE, WE REALLY NEED TO PUT ALL THE LANGUAGE AND WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT I CAN DEFINITELY, SO SHE ASKED, SHE REACHED OUT TO ME AND ASKED ME MM-HMM .

FOR CLARIFICATION, AND I, UM, I POINTED HER TO THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT THAT YOU GUYS CAME UP WITH MM-HMM .

ON THE CITY WEBSITE, UM, FOR THE EXACT LANGUAGE, BECAUSE SHE WAS RIGHT.

THAT WAS PRETTY TRUNCATED.

YES.

UM, SO YEAH, I DID POINT, SHE DID REACH OUT TO ME, UM, KNOWING THAT I WAS ON THIS COMMITTEE AND I POINTED HER TO THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT.

YEAH.

AND IT, UM, I GOT A CALL FROM SOMEONE ELSE AND I TOLD HIM, I SAID, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE BALANCE BETWEEN CATCHING PEOPLE'S ATTENTION AND THEN THE LONG WINDED WOUNDEDNESS OF RIGHT.

OF, AND AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT IN MULTIPLE PAGES ON OUR WEBSITE.

AND I WANTED HER TO POINT BACK TO US FOR THE SAME REASON, BECAUSE, UM, IT WAS VERY SUMMARIZED YES.

IN THEIR LITTLE FLYER.

SO, AS OUR MADAM CHAIR GONNA BE PRESENTING OFF OF THE POWERPOINT SLIDE, OR IS GONNA BE PRESENTING THE REPORT, BECAUSE THEY, THEY DON'T REFLECT THE SAME THING.

SO THE POWERPOINT SLIDE IS ONLY A, UM, A GUIDE MM-HMM .

THE, THE PERSON THAT'S DOING THE PRESENTATION CAN EXPAND AS HE OR SHE DEEMS APPROPRIATE.

THE, THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION IS JUST KIND OF MOVING YOU THROUGH AND, AND HITTING THE HIGHLIGHTS.

YOU CAN EXPAND HOWEVER YOU CHOOSE.

SO, UH, IF WE'RE PRESENTING THE REPORT, THEN WE NEED TO ALSO PRESENT THE OPTIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AND NOT VOTED ON TO MOVE FORWARD.

AT LEAST LET THEM KNOW THEY WERE CONSIDERED.

SO WHAT SOME, AND THAT CAN BE DONE IN ONE SLIDE.

I WOULD, I WOULD ASSUME SOME PEOPLE HAVE, UM, HAVE SOME COMMITTEES HAVE PUT THAT IN BY VOICING IT.

YEAH.

UM, AND NOT NECESSARILY PUT IT IN THEIR POWERPOINT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANNA CREATE A CONFUSION.

RIGHT.

UM, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGESTING.

YEAH.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T ADD A SLIDE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WASN'T APPROVED.

UH, I KNOW THAT LAST TIME MR. MINGER HIT SOME HIGHLIGHTS ON IN GENERAL OF, YOU KNOW, OUR MOST CONTROVERSIAL THINGS WERE THIS, OR THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAD A BIG DISCUSSION ON.

WHY ARE WE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH OUR LIFE? WE'RE SAVING ENERGY .

YEAH.

UM, ROLLING.

BLACKOUT ROLLING AGAIN.

YEAH.

THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

UM,

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SO THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THE POWERPOINT IS JUST, THESE ARE THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, BUT YOU CAN EXPAND ON, ON, UH, ON THE ENTIRE PROCESS AS MUCH AS YOU WANT.

I, I WOULD HARDLY RECOMMEND THAT IN THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION ON THE REPORT, WHETHER IT'S FLAT OR NOT, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE ONES THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT, BUT NOT MOVED FORWARD.

SO ARE YOU SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT SECTION 12, THE TERM LIMIT? WELL, YOU'VE GOT TERM NO, NO, BECAUSE WE'RE SENDING THAT ON, WE'RE SENDING THAT ON ONCE WE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE, THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STAFFING, THE, UM, THE ONE BY MR PARENT, MR. PARENTS ON THE RECALL, UH, LANGUAGE AND ON THE FIFTH PROPO, UH, FIFTH PROPOSAL AMENDMENT.

OH, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS MR. PER WASN'T IT? ACTUALLY, WE HAD BIG DISCUSSION ON THE, WHEN SOMEBODY TAKES OVER AS A COUNCILMAN, BUT YES, I DON'T, AFTER WE GOT CLARIFICATION, WE, I DON'T THINK WE VOTED ON ANYTHING ON THAT.

YES.

WE, WE DID WE MOVE TO NOT MOVE IT.

WE SAID WE ALSO VOTED THAT THAT NEEDED TO BE CONSIDERED BY COUNCIL AS A FUTURE PROBLEM.

AND I THINK I SAW THAT IN HERE.

IT'S RIGHT HERE, HERE, ISN'T IT? THE FOURTH ONE RIGHT HERE.

SO AGAIN, YOU GUYS CAN DO WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU THINK, THINK IS, IS APPROPRIATE.

THE ONE THING THAT I WILL NO, THAT'S THE ONE HE TOLD THAT I WILL COMMENT ON IS COUNSEL WANTS TO HEAR WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE TO MOVE FORWARD.

THEY WANNA KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE, ARE GIVING THEM AND WHAT THEY'RE GONNA CONSIDER TO MOVE TOWARDS THE ELECTORS OR NOT.

YEAH.

I DON'T, I DON'T SEE MR. PARENTS IN THIS REPORT.

YEAH, NO, IT'S NOT, WHICH IS WHY I'M GONNA ADD IT.

WE JUST, I JUST THINK WE NEED TO TELL COUNSEL THAT.

SO WE BASICALLY HAD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, THE FIFTH OPPOSED AMENDMENT, AND THEN MR. PARENT'S, UH, RECALL NUMBERS.

AND THE, SO IF ALSO THE THIRD WAS THE THIRD.

I CAN'T READ.

NO, THAT'S THE ONLY TWO.

I GUESS THREE.

THREE, THREE.

SO IF COUNSEL WANTS US TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO MOVE FORWARD AND THAT'S IN, AND THOSE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MR. BEARD ARE GOING TO BE IN THE REPORT.

IS IT, IS THERE A REASON THAT WE NEED TO PRESENT ON THOSE? IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION.

RIGHT.

BUT IT'S GONNA BE IN A REPORT.

YEAH.

I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IN THOSE REPORTS THAT YOU TELL COUNSEL, WE CONSIDER THIS AND DECIDED NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY.

SAY WE CONSIDER THE FILE ITEMS AND VOTED NOT TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND IF THEY WANNA KNOW WHY, THEN YOU CAN EXPOUND UPON THAT.

I DIDN'T SERVE ON THE LAST COMMITTEE, BUT ON THE TWO, THREE I DID, WE, WE GAVE A, WE GAVE A VERBAL REPORT ON, UH, EVERYTHING THAT WAS CONSIDERED.

PARTICULARLY ANYTHING THAT WAS CONTROVERSIAL.

I'M NOT AGAINST IT.

YEAH.

I'M JUST CONSIDERING WHAT MS. BRI JUST SAID ABOUT THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FOR MOVING FORWARD.

I JUST, JUST, JUST A QUESTION.

YEAH.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT'S NOT GONNA BE BROUGHT IN THAT REPORT MM-HMM .

BUT WE DIDN'T BOTHER AND WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T BRING UP EVERYTHING.

BUT YOU SAID PEOPLE WILL HAVE A OPPORTUNITY TO ASK US QUESTIONS.

MM-HMM .

AND I THINK AT THAT TIME, YOU PROBABLY COULD PRESENT THOSE IDEAS.

IT WAS DISCUSSED.

IT'S HOWEVER, AGAIN, THIS IS GONNA BE HOW THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR WANNA PRESENT IT.

AND YOU'RE GONNA BE THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

YOU'RE GONNA BE THERE TO GIVE YOUR COMMENTS.

MM-HMM .

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG WAY OKAY.

TO DO IT.

SO MR. MAY WAS THE ONLY ONE ON THE ZOOM, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.

SO MISS OR SO BRIE, UM, WILL SHE, WILL YOU GUYS REACH OUT TO HER ABOUT TONIGHT'S MEETING? OH, YES.

UH, WELL, WHAT WE WOULD WHAT, BECAUSE SHE'S SO NEW TO THE PROCESS, WHAT WE'D PROBABLY DO, OR WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT WE BRING, UH, YOU AND, AND MS. BRIE IN TO KIND OF GO OVER WHAT A PRESENTATION BEFORE THE COUNCIL WOULD BE LIKE.

SO YOU'RE NOT COMPLETELY, UM, ABSOLUTELY.

YOU KNOW, KIND OF MM-HMM .

UH, TAKEN OFF GUARD.

WE'D SHOW YOU THE TECHNOLOGY, WE'D SHOW YOU HOW TO MOVE THROUGH IT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, AND WE CAN PRACTICE A LITTLE BIT SO THAT THERE'S A COMFORT LEVEL.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT, UH, UH, YOU GUYS TO FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST KIND OF THROWING YOU OUT THERE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I, SO IS THERE ANY, I MEAN, I'VE GOT NOTES, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, STAFFING, THOMAS' PARENTS, UM,

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DISCUSSION ABOUT A RECALL THE ABOUT PERCENTAGE OR NUMBER OF VOTES NEEDED FOR A RECALL MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

THERE WAS ONE OTHER, IT WAS THE OTHER ABOUT INDUCTION OR WHEN MM-HMM .

OH.

UM, WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY TAKE OVER AFTER, WHEN THEY TAKE OVER AFTER THE EIGHTH OR SOMETHING MM-HMM .

INDUCTION OF COUNSEL IN OFFICE.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

THAT'S WHAT WE JUST SAYS.

SAID THOROUGHLY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE DID.

AND AUM, AND AS MR. MAYO SUGGESTED, THAT PROBABLY JUST NEEDS TO BE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THOROUGHLY.

MM-HMM .

DECIDED DIDN'T HAVE A SOLUTION, BUT WANNA LET YOU KNOW THIS COULD BE A PROBLEM AREA IN THE FUTURE NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND AT LEAST MAKE HIM AWARE OF IT.

I THINK THAT WAS MR. MAY'S INTENTION.

OKAY.

I THINK WE CAN THROW THAT.

I I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR HIM.

HE'S CERTAINLY ABLE TO DO THAT HIMSELF.

YOU'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD.

, BUT I AGREE WITH THAT.

THAT'S TRUE.

AND HE BE A NEW ON THE COMMITTEE.

I GOT A QUESTION.

MM-HMM .

IS THIS COMMITTEE, HOW LONG IS THE DURATION OF THIS COMMITTEE? IT'S ABOUT TO END .

OKAY.

NO, ACTUALLY YOUR TERM CONTINUES UNTIL THE LAST DAY THAT YOU CAN CALL A MUNICIPAL ELECTION ON THE CHARTER.

SO YOU WILL BE STILL IN OFFICE IN CASE COUNSEL WANTS TO SEND SOMETHING BACK TO YOU TO LOOK AT AFTER YOUR REPORT.

MM-HMM .

SO YOU REMAIN UNTIL THE LAST DAY THAT THEY CAN CALL AN ELECTION IN 2021, WHICH IS AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, SEPTEMBER.

NO, IT'S GOING TO BE OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

THIS IS A SPRING ELECTION, RIGHT? NO, IT'S A FALL ELECTION.

SO WHEN'S THE LAST DAY THEY CAN CALL? UH, I'M LOOKING AT MY CALENDAR.

GIMME A MINUTE.

OH, I'LL JUST LOOK A YES.

CALL .

NO, I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE AUGUST 16TH.

OKAY.

AUGUST, AUGUST, MONDAY, AUGUST 16TH.

I WAS THINKING IT WAS DOWN THE ROAD.

YEAH.

OKAY.

MONDAY, AUGUST 16TH IS THE LAST DAY THAT WE CAN CALL AN ELECTION.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

NOW.

DOES THAT CHANGE IF THEY CALL THE ELECTION? KAREN, I'M SORRY, IF LET'S SAY THEY CALL THE ELECTION EARLIER THAN THAT.

UM, I SEE.

I BROUGHT MY CHARTER.

ALRIGHT.

LEMME CHECK.

IT'S IN THE CHARTER.

LET ME DOUBLE CHECK REAL QUICK.

YEAH.

I DON'T THINK THEY CAN.

I'M SORRY, SIR.

I NO, NO, GO AHEAD.

WE NEEDED, WE WERE STILL OKAY.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

I WAS THINKING IT WAS DOWN THE ROAD.

NOW WHAT IF ANOTHER ISSUE COMES UP? CAN THAT STILL BE PRESENTED OR IS THAT NOT ALLOWED IN RETROSPECT, AFTER THIS, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY COMES TO ME AND SAYS, I GOT AN ISSUE AND I'M STILL ON THIS COMMITTEE.

MM-HMM .

CAN THAT BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMITTEE? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THEY'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED A REPORT TO COUNCIL, COULD THE COUNCIL SEND IT IT BACK DOWN? NO, IT'S SOMETHING COUNSEL CAN SEND IT BACK.

SOMETHING ALL TOGETHER DIFFERENT.

YEAH.

COUNSEL CAN SEND IT BACK.

BUT YOU'RE, YOU'VE MADE, YOU'RE SAYING TO COUNCIL, YOU'VE DONE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FINISHED.

YOUR, YOUR JOB, YOU'RE DONE.

IF COUNCIL SOMEONE APPROACHES COUNCIL AND WANTS THEM FOR YOU TO CONSIDER IT, THE COUNCIL CAN VOTE TO HAVE YOU RECONSIDER.

BUT YOU CAN'T BRING ANOTHER ISSUE BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, DURING THIS TERM COUNCIL CAN I, I WOULD TELL THEM THAT YOU NEED TO CONTACT YOUR COUNCIL PERSON AND HAVE THEM SEND IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE THAT, AND THEN WE CAN MEET AGAIN.

IS THAT CORRECT, KAREN? YEAH.

SOUNDS LIKE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

BECAUSE WE'RE, WELL, THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING.

IF THE COMMITTEE IS IN A, IN STILL IN OFFICIAL COMMITTEE TILL AUGUST, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

MM-HMM .

IN THE INTERIM FROM NOW BEING FEBRUARY MM-HMM .

TO AUGUST.

IF SOMEBODY COMES A SALE, LOCAL CITIZEN COMES AND HAS AN ISSUE IN REGARDS TO THE CHARTER, YOU CANNOT COME BACK AND BRING ANOTHER ITEM BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE LIKE WE'VE DONE, DONE WITH THESE ITEMS. RIGHT.

IS THAT CORRECT? DIRECTLY TO YOU? NO, BUT THEY, IF THAT, IF YOU SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE CAN'T DO IT DIRECTLY TO ME NOW, BUT YOU CAN TALK TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND YOUR COUNCIL CAN SEND IT BACK DOWN TO US.

OKAY.

SO THE COUNCIL CAN CALL YOU BACK IN.

OKAY.

BUT EVEN THOUGH THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW, THE COMMITTEE'S ACTUALLY NOT DISSOLVED.

YES, SIR.

BUT IT'S JUST THESE ITEMS. YES, SIR.

SO SOMETHING ELSE COMES UP.

THEY GOTTA GO TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER.

THEY CAN'T, YOU CAN'T PRESENT IT THROUGH LIKE BEFORE NOW, WE COULD BRING WHATEVER MM-HMM .

WE HAD MM-HMM .

YES, SIR.

AND THAT'S EVEN UNTIL THIS, UM, EVEN UNTIL THIS UH, MARCH MEETING.

SO I THINK YOU VOTED THAT THIS WAS YOUR FINAL REPORT.

YEAH.

WE VOTED.

THIS WAS THE FINAL REPORT.

THE FINAL REPORT.

THAT'S THE FINAL REPORT THAT WOULD BE SUBMITTED TO COUNSEL ON THE FIRST MEETING IN, IN MARCH.

AND THEN IT'S IN COUNSEL'S PURVIEW.

AT THAT POINT, IF COUNSEL, SOMEONE COMES UP TO COUNCIL, WANTS THEM TO CONSIDER SOMETHING, OR WANTS YOU ALL TO CONSIDER, OR COUNSEL WANTS YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THAT THEY CAN SEND IT BACK TO YOU AND SAY, NO, YOUR REPORT'S NOT FINAL.

WE'D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER ONE MORE THING OR TWO MORE THINGS, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT, BUT YOU'RE TELLING COUNSEL, THIS IS YOUR FINAL REPORT WE'VE SEEN.

DO YOU KNOW SOMETHING PUT? YEAH.

THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.

I WAS JUST WANTING TO SEE BECAUSE YEAH, I DO KNOW SOMETHING AND I WOULD, WOULD

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IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT COMMENT TO BE SENT AN EMAIL TO THE CITY CLERK FOR ASK HER TO CONSIDER, HAVE COUNSEL CONSIDER IT.

YOU USUALLY CAN ANSWER MY QUESTIONS.

NOT, I WOULD'VE WANT TO BRING IT UP TODAY.

BUT WE HAD A REQUEST FOR A PERSON TO COME AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS.

IT'S IN REGARDS TO THE, UH, THE ELECTIONS AND, UH, I DON'T WANNA GET INTO IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING, WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT YOU CAN'T GET INTO IT IF WE'RE NOT HERE AFTER THIS, THIS NO, I KNOW, I KNOW.

SO, BUT ACTUALLY WE CAN'T DO IT ANYWAY.

WE SHOULD, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESENTED BEFORE NOW.

RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

THATS WHY THAT I ASK IF THE COMMITTEE WAS, IF THE COMMITTEE WAS STILL IN EXISTENCE, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THIS FINAL REPORT, I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS IT FOR THE, EVEN THOUGH THE COMMITTEE'S GONNA BE IN UNTIL AUGUST AND IT'S GOTTA BE KICKED BACK BY THE COUNCIL FOR I UNDERSTAND EVERY BIT OF THAT.

I, THIS JUST COME UP RECENTLY.

WELL THEN MAYBE THAT PERSON SHOULD COME TO THE MARCH THE 11TH MEETING AND SIGN IN.

WELL, BUT THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T DO THAT.

IT'S JUST THEY CAN SIGN IN.

YEAH, THEY CAN SIGN UP IF THE COUNCIL ITEM, THEY CAN TALK ONTO THE COUNCIL.

YEAH.

AND THEN IF COUNCIL YEAH, THEN THEY CAN SAY, OKAY, GO BACK AND WHATEVER.

IF THEY, SO THAT THERE'S NO DOUBT, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS PRESENTING FINAL REPORT AND WE ARE NOT MEETING AGAIN EXCEPT FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL BEING THE FINISHED REPORT, UNLESS DIRECTED TO DO SO BY COUNSEL.

DO THAT.

IS THAT AN APPROPRIATE REPORT THAT DOES THAT? I THINK THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.

THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.

THEN I MAKE THAT MOTION.

I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

HOLD ON.

.

, WE'VE GOT IT.

AND JUST WHILE YOU'RE HOLDING ON THE, THE CHARTER SAYS THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE SHALL SERVE FROM THEIR DATE OF APPOINTMENT UNTIL THE FIRST DAY AFTER SUCH APPOINTMENT BY WHICH THE COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO CALL.

ITS REGULARLY MUNICIPAL ELECTION.

OKAY.

FOR THE OFFICE OF MAYOR.

SO THAT DATE THAT LUDY GAVE YOU, YOU IS CORRECT.

OR THE DATE AFTER THAT.

AND THE OTHER REASON IS WE HAVE TO AGREE ON THE AGENDA AND WE CAN'T AGREE ON AN AGENDA WE CAN'T MEET.

SO, OKAY.

SO THE MOTION IS THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE PRESENTING FINAL REPORT MM-HMM .

AND WE'RE NOT GONNA MEET AGAIN.

MM-HMM .

EXCEPT FOR THE MARCH MEETING.

UNLESS WE ARE RECALLED BY COUNCIL TO MEET OR SENT OR CALLED BY COUNCIL TO MEET HOWEVER YOU WANT.

NOT MEET AGAIN, HOWEVER YOU WANT UNTIL WORD IT MARCH.

I HAVE YOUR, GIMME A MINUTE CC MEETING.

WE'VE GOT AN ISSUE.

COME TO THE MARCH 11TH MEETING AND SIGN UP TO SPEAK.

CALL THEIR COUNCIL PERSON UNLESS, OR CALL THEIR COUNCIL PERSON CALLED TO, THERE YOU GO.

BY THE COUNCIL.

OKAY.

THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.

AND I HAVE A FIRST FROM MR. BEARD IN A SECOND FOR MS. FINLEY.

MM-HMM .

IN MY, IN MY DISCUSSION COMMENT WOULD BE IS THAT IF YOU CAN'T CALL YOUR COUNCIL PERSON AND GET THEIR AGREEMENT THAT THEY NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT, THEN AIN'T GONNA GET PAST COUNCIL ANYWAY.

.

I DON'T FIGURE THIS IS EITHER.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THERE YOU GO.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR A.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? I DIDN'T HEAR MR. MAY.

HE SAID AYE.

HE SAID AYE.

HE SAID AYE.

I SAID, AYE.

I DIDN'T SAY, I, I SAID DO WE HAVE ANY ABSTENTIONS? MR. RAYON IS ABSTAINING.

OKAY.

NOPE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? SO DID WE VOTE ON THE POWERPOINT? NO.

OKAY.

WE DIDN'T? NO.

OH, I THOUGHT WE DID.

.

I HAVE A LOT OF VOTES.

, I'VE GOT SOME DISCUSSION, BUT THEY WANT NO VOTE.

I GUESS THE ISSUE WAS WHETHER TO ADD A SLIDE WITH THE ITEMS THAT WERE CONSIDERED DID NOT.

YES.

PASS.

IS THAT, DO YOU WANT A SLIDE WITH WHAT YOU DIDN'T, THAT YOU VOTED ON THAT DID NOT MOVE FORWARD? AND THAT CAN BE ONE SLIDE.

UH, SO I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

SO WE'RE, BUT WE'RE VOTING ON, WE'RE APPROVING THE POWERPOINT.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? MM-HMM .

WE'RE VOTING ON APPROVING THE POWERPOINT.

SO AS IT IS MM-HMM .

SO YOU CAN MAKE YOUR MOTION THAT WE APPROVE IT WITH THE SLIDE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T, THE THREE THINGS THAT WEREN'T MM-HMM .

THAT WERE, THAT AREN'T ALREADY, THAT WE DIDN'T SEND FORWARD.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.

OKAY.

MR. BEARD HAS A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

MR. COKER SECONDS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? NO.

MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU.

THAT WOULD BE THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS.

.

RIGHT? THAT WOULD BE THEIR CAN I NEED TO ASK QUESTIONS? OKAY.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? YOU NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN? YOU ARE ALL MOTIONS TODAY.

I'M, I'M HUNGRY AND I'M, I'M TIRED AND I'VE HAD A HARD FOUR DAYS.

DID YOU, DID YOU, DID I HEAR A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I'LL SECOND IT MR.

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SECOND AND LOOK AT THAT RIGHT ON TIME.

ON TIME.

RIGHT ON TIME.

FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

THIS MEETING SANDRA ADJOURNED AT 6:13 PM OKAY.

SEE Y'ALL ON 11TH.