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[1. MINUTES]
ONE A.CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON DECEMBER 14TH, 2020.
UM, ANY COMMENTS, CONCERN, CHANGES? NO.
[2. DISCUSSIONS]
TO ITEM TWO A, DISCUSS AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE AMENDMENTS TO THE BAYTOWN CITY CHARTER, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO TERM LIMITS.AND WE HAVE A SPEAKER ON ZOOM.
UH, MS. HUNTER'S GONNA GO THROUGH WHAT WE'VE DONE AND THEN WHEN WE GET, UM, TO THE NEW INITIATIVE, AND WE'LL, SO GOOD MORNING OR GOOD EVENING
GUESS WHERE YOU ARE? UM, I JUST WANNA GO OVER KIND OF WHAT WE, WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE SO FAR, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
UM, AND THEN THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET, BY THE WAY.
IT'S CALLED 20 20 21 CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE OVERVIEW OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND COMMITTEE VOTES.
SO THE FIRST ONE WAS, UM, YOU ALL DISCUSSED 22.1, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STAFFING.
UM, AT YOUR MEETING IN NOVEMBER 16TH, YOU'VE ALL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY NOT TO MAKE ANY AMENDMENTS, SO THAT WILL NOT BE GOING FORWARD.
YOUR SECOND PROPOSED AMENDMENT WAS ONE THAT STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN, UH, SOME OF THE NAMES OF THE DEPARTMENTS HERE AT THE CITY.
WE RECOMMENDED THAT, UM, THAT PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING BE TOGETHER AS ONE DEPARTMENT.
UM, ALSO WE TALKED ABOUT THAT COUNCIL BY ORDINANCE MAY ABOLISH, UM, CREATE AND ABOLISH OFFICES.
SO, UM, OTHER THAN THOSE THAT ARE ESTABLISHED BY THE CHARTER.
SO THOSE WERE TWO CHANGES THAT WERE, WERE THERE.
UH, IT WOULD ALLOW COUNCIL TO CONSOLIDATE IF THAT WAS COMING IN THE FUTURE, LIKE IT DID WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING.
SO AT YOUR MEETING, YOU VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND PRESENT THAT TO COUNSEL.
THE NEXT ONE WAS SECTION 29 TALKS ABOUT PROCEDURES FOR PASSAGES OF ORDINANCES.
THIS IS THAT REAL FINITE ONE WHERE WE TALK ABOUT HOW IT JUST TAKES ONE READING OF ALL OUR ORDINANCES TO PASS.
THERE'S TWO EXCEPTIONS TO THAT.
ONE OF WHICH IS IN HERE IS THE, UM, FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS.
THOSE ARE READ THREE TIMES, BUT WHAT'S NOT IN HERE IS OUR TWO READINGS OF OUR ANNEXATION ORDINANCES.
SO WE REQUIRED ELSEWHERE, AND THIS WAS JUST KIND OF TO CLEAN THAT UP.
SO WE JUST, UM, ADDED A SECTION NUMBER IN SECTION 29.
YOU ALL REVIEWED THAT, UM, DECEMBER 14TH, AND VOTED ALSO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
UM, THE FOURTH AMENDMENT WAS THE INDUCTION OF COUNSEL INTO OFFICE.
WE HAD A LENGTHY DISCUSSION AT THE LAST CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING REGARDING, UM, WHETHER THERE NEEDS TO BE A DATE CERTAIN, OR HOW THIS SHOULD BE HANDLED.
UM, ULTIMATELY IT WAS, IT WAS DECIDED JUST TO LEAVE.
BUT YOU WANTED IT NOTED IN THE FINAL REPORT THAT THIS HAS, UM, POTENTIAL CONFLICTS IN HOW COUNCIL MAY WANT TO RECONSIDER ADDRESSING IT SOMEHOW IN THE FUTURE.
SO, UM, RIGHT NOW IT'S AFTER THE ELECTION AT THE REGULAR PLACE OF HOLDING A MEETING, UM, AFTER THE PERSON IS QUALIFIED.
SO THEY HAVE TO SIGN THEIR OATH AND, AND, UM, AND, UH, BE ELECTED OBVIOUSLY, AND THEN THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, SITTING ON THE DAIS.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST WAS THAT THE LAST ONE? THE LAST ONE WAS ACTUALLY, UM, THE TERM LIMITS.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME, AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WANTED TO CONSIDER.
THE SAME LANGUAGE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE IN 2012 IS WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, UM, TO, TO TAKE A LOOK AT TO SEE IF YOU WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH THAT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF A SYNOPSIS OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHERE WE ARE.
UM, IF YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE, UH, TERM LIMITS SO WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT AT THIS TIME.
SO, UM, I'M A USE PROPONENT OF TERM LIMITS.
I'M USUALLY IN A MINORITY ON THIS.
AND, UM, I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEND TERM LIMITS TO COUNCIL.
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I'D LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST ONE TIME IN THE CITY'S HISTORY, TERM LIMITS GO TO THE BALLOT AND LET THE CITIZENS VOTE ON IT.'CAUSE COUNCIL NEVER PUTS IT FORWARD.
AND I THINK IT SENDS A MESSAGE WHEN THEY GET A CHARTER AMENDMENT AND THEY DON'T SEND IT FORWARD TO ALLOW THE ASSISTANCE TO VOTE ON IT.
AND THEN THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY THAT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT GO FORWARD.
I WOULD HOWEVER, SUGGEST THAT WE CHANGE THAT TO THREE TERMS INSTEAD OF TWO.
AND ONLY BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S NO WAY COUNSEL'S GONNA APPROVE A TWO TERM TERM LIMITS.
YEAH, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU.
I DON'T, I KNOW I WAS HERE IN NOVEMBER, UM, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH THAT PEOPLE HAVE WORKED ON THIS.
AND IT'S, IT'S KIND OF TIME WASTED BECAUSE I NEVER WENT THROUGH, BUT MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW.
FIFTH, SIXTH TIME IS THE CHARM.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT TOO LAST TIME IS THE 50%, IF THEY HAD MORE THAN 50% OF THEIR TERM LEFT, THAT DOESN'T REALLY APPLY ANYMORE.
AND, AND I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP LAST TIME BECAUSE, UM, WE HAVE A RESIGNED TO RUN NOW PROVISION SINCE WE HAVE THREE YEAR TERMS. SO IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE YEAR IN YOUR TERM, WE HAVE TO GO TO ELECTION TO FILL THAT VACANCY.
SO THEY WILL BE FILLED AT, AT AN ELECTION.
IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE YEAR, IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE YEAR.
IF YOU HAVE ONE YEAR, THERE'S A FINITE PERIOD OF TIME IN WHICH COUNCIL MAY APPOINT.
AND IF THEY DON'T APPOINT, THEY HAVE TO GO TO AN ELECTION.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE US TAKE THIS, UH, TO COUNCIL.
AS FAR AS TERM LIMITS, I'M, UM, I'M, I'M LIKE, UH, MR. BEARD, I'M KIND OF CONCERNED THAT IT'S NEVER GONE TO THE CITIZENS TO HAVE THEM VOTE ON IT.
SO I'M DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THAT.
ANYONE ELSE? I'M IN FAVOR OF IT TOO.
I THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE GET IN A POSITION AND THEY JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S THEIR PRIVATE THING AND IT SHOULD BE CHANGED SOMETIME.
GET PEOPLE TO GET STALE IN POSITIONS.
AND UNFORTUNATELY WE ALSO TALKED LAST TIME IN THE LAST SEVERAL TIMES THAT THE BALLOT BOX CAN BE THE DETERMINANT OF THAT.
HOWEVER, UM, WE HAVE PRETTY LOW VOTING TURNOUTS, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY THE BEST THING EITHER TO LEAVE IT TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T VOTE.
SO WHAT I HEAR IS IF I CHANGE IT TO THREE CONSECUTIVE TERMS AND TALK ABOUT THE COMPLETION OF THE THIRD CONSECUTIVE TERM THROUGHOUT THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE WAY YOU WANNA GO ON THIS ONE.
I CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE SO YOU'LL HAVE IT.
I, I WOULDN'T LOSE ANY SLEEP IF IT WENT TO A PUBLIC VOTE AND IT GOT TURNED DOWN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR ONCE TO HEAR WHAT THE COMMUNITY OF BAYTOWN HAS TO SAY ABOUT TERM LIMITS IN A VOTE.
AND THAT JUST, THAT HASN'T HAPPENED THROUGH THE HIRING MANY CHARTER REVIEW WE HAD.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT COMES UP IN EVERY CHARTER REVIEW.
WE TALK ABOUT EVERY CHARTER REVIEW.
IT'S ONLY BEEN PRESENTED TO COUNSEL ONE TIME IN 2012.
ALRIGHT, SO ANYWAY, SO, UM, THEY CAN VOTE ON THE TERM LIMITS AND CHANGING IT FROM TH TWO TO THREE.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE WANTED TO DO THAT.
SO WE CAN UPDATE THIS AND HAVE THAT.
SO YOU CAN CALL FROM, UH, MR. BEARD PROBABLY WANTS, YOU NEED A MOTION ON THAT? YEAH.
TO, UM, TO, UH, ACCEPT THE, THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE WITH THE CHANGE OF, UH, THREE INSTEAD OF TWO YEARS TO HAVE THREE, THREE CONSECUTIVE FULL TIMES.
THAT'S WHAT YOU THREE YEAR TERMS. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT MR. MAYO HAS TO SAY.
UH, I'M, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, I'M GENERALLY NOT IN FAVOR OF TERM LIMITS.
AND SO IT'S THREE CONSECUTIVE TERMS OF THREE, THREE YEARS.
I THINK YOU JUST NEED TO
THEY MAY CHANGE IT BACK TO THREE, SOME POINT IN TIME OR WHATEVER HE SAID HE WOULD VOTE IN FAVOR OF THAT A MM-HMM
JUST WHAT WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE DOING OF WHAT? THE THREE MM-HMM
THE THREE AND THREE I'M, YEAH.
THREE TERMS OR THREE YEARS EACH.
SO I THINK WE ALL, I NEED A SECOND.
AND SO, UM, I BELIEVE MR. BEARD HAS A SECTION THAT HE WANTS TO BRING UP.
OH, THOMAS, IN THE MEETING, DID HE ZOOM IN? IS HE AVAILABLE? HE DID, YES.
SO IF POSSIBLE, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS DO AN INTRODUCTION AND KNOW THAT THOMAS PATIENT PARENT HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS, AND WE'LL
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LET HIM SPEAK AND THEN COME BACK AND DISCUSS IT, IF THAT'S OKAY.EVERYBODY ON WHAT? ON, ON WHAT WE'RE FIXING TO DO.
UM, MR. PARENT APPROACHED ME AT A MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT THAT WE BOTH SAT ON A COMMITTEE AND SAID HE HAD AN ITEM THAT HE WANTED TO BRING UP FOR DISCUSSION, AND I ASKED HIM TO PRESENT THAT TO A CITY CLERK SO WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT.
AND IT WAS SPECIFICALLY ON THE NUMBER OF BOTH REQUIRED IN A RECALL ELECTION, UH, IN THE PROCESS.
AND, UH, I, I MADE A COPY OF THE EMAIL HE HAD SENT, BUT, UH, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK HE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE, SO MM-HMM
THOMAS IS PRETTY GOOD ABOUT SPEAKING FOR HIMSELF, SO THEY CAN LET HIM GO.
HI, UH, THIS IS THOMAS PARENT, UH, JUST FOR, UH, FORMALITIES, UH, FOR THE CITY CLERK.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS 69 0 3 HUNTERS WAY LANE.
UH, AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP, UH, YOU KNOW, I I I LIKE TO THINK OF THE CHARTER, YOU KNOW, NOT IN TERMS OF, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY, BUT WHAT MIGHT BE HAPPENING 20, 30, 40 YEARS FROM NOW, UH, IN BAYTOWN.
AND, UH, SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT CAUGHT MY EYE PREVIOUSLY WAS, UH, ON SECTION ONE 10, RECALL PETITIONS.
UH, THE, THE WAY THAT RECALL PETITIONS ARE DEFINED, UH, IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PETITION SIGNATURES IN ORDER TO INITIATE THE RECALL.
AND, UM, WITH THE WAY THAT OUR ELECTIONS ARE STAGGERED EVERY THREE YEARS, YOU, YOU HIT DIFFERENT TYPES OF ELECTIONS FOR, UH, DIFFERENT COUNCIL POSITIONS.
SO YOU COULD HIT AN ODD YEAR WHERE THAT'S THE ONLY ITEM ON THE BALLOT.
YOU COULD HIT A US HOUSE, UH, RACE, YOU COULD HIT THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE.
UH, SO YOU GET A, A WIDE VARIANCE IN THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP TO VOTE.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, TO RECALL DISTRICT FOUR COUNCILWOMAN HEATHER BETTEN COURT, UH, THE VOTERS IN, IN DISTRICT FOUR WOULD JUST NEED 278 SIGNATURES ON A PETITION, UH, VERSUS DISTRICT FIVE.
UH, MR. POWELL WOULD BE 4,406.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO SIDES TO THIS COIN IN, IN DISTRICT FOUR THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY UNFAIR TO COUNCILWOMAN BETTENCOURT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT YOU KNOW, SHE'S DONE.
UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT HER FAULT THAT, UH, ONLY 278 PEOPLE VOTED IN THE PREVIOUS ELECTION FOR, UH, THAT DISTRICT.
AND IN DISTRICT FIVE, IT'S REALLY UNFAIR TO VOTERS THERE.
UH, YOU KNOW, UH, A RECALL WOULD, YOU KNOW, IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY UNCOMMON OCCURRENCE HERE IN BAYTOWN.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE EXPECT TO HAVE HAPPEN VERY OFTEN, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE VOTERS IN THE DISTRICT SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND SHOULDN'T BE SUBJECT TO AN, UH, AN UNREALISTIC NUMBER OF PETITION SIGNATURES.
UH, SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IF IT'S, UH, IF IT'S ALLOWABLE BY STATE LAW WOULD BE A, A PERCENTAGE OF QUALIFIED VOTERS, RATHER THAN LOOKING BACK TO HOW MANY PEOPLE VOTED IN THE PRIOR ELECTION, THAT WOULD KIND OF STABILIZE IT ACROSS THE DIFFERENT ELECTION CYCLES THAT WE SEE.
AND, UH, I WOULD PROPOSE 20% IF THAT'S ALLOWED.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
SO JUST TO, TO SUMMARIZE, SO FOR OUR COUNCIL ELECTIONS AND FOR OUR, OUR, UH, MAYORAL ELECTIONS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
SO FOR COUNCIL ELECTIONS, THEY ARE THE NUMBER OF VOTES CAST AT THE PREVIOUS ELECTION, FOR WHICH THERE WERE AT LEAST TWO CANDIDATES.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IN, IN 2011 IT WAS UNCONTESTED, IS THAT RIGHT? FOR WHAT YEAR? WHEN WAS IT CONTESTED? FOR, FOR WHICH ONE? FOR DISTRICT FOUR.
THE LAST TIME IT WAS CONTESTED WAS IN 2011 WHEN WE WERE STILL IN MAY.
SO NOW WE, WE'VE CHANGED AND SHE HASN'T BEEN OPPOSED, OR THAT POSITION HASN'T BEEN OPPOSED? IT HASN'T BEEN OPPOSED OR IT'S BEEN CANCELED.
WAS THAT 278 FROM THIS PAST DISTRICT FOUR ELECTION? NO, NO, SHE HASN'T.
RIGHT? BECAUSE SHE WASN'T RIGHT.
SO THIS IS FROM 2011 WHEN YOU SAID THAT? YES.
SO ALSO, THE, THE MAYORAL ELECTION IS A PERCENTAGE OF THE VOTES CAST AT THE LAST MAYORAL ELECTION AT WHICH THERE WERE AT LEAST TWO CANDIDATES.
AND THAT ALSO HAS A, A THRESHOLD THAT IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST 700 SIGNATURES.
SO, RECALL ELECTION SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE CITY OF BAYTOWN, WE'VE HAD ONE RECALL ELECTION, UM, IN THE 73 YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN AROUND.
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AND THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE TO THIS BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE FORMER CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE WANTED TO SEE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE REASON FOR THE RECALL WAS INCLUDED IN THE PETITION PACKAGE, SO THAT EVERYBODY KNEW WHY THIS PERSON WAS, OR WHY THE PEOPLE, THE COMMITTEE OF, OF, OF ELECTORS WAS WANTING TO, UM, TO RECALL THE PERSON.SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT WAS DONE BACK, UM, IN 2012, I BELIEVE.
AND THAT ACTUALLY HAD TO BE STATED ON EACH PETITION THAT WAS BEING SIGNED CORRECTLY AT THE, WELL, WE HAVEN'T, I DON'T REMEMBER.
WE HAVEN'T HAD AN ELECTION SINCE THEN.
OH, REALLY? THAT WAS A LESSON LEARNED THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WEREN'T, DIDN'T REALLY KNOW REASON.
SO, UM, AND THERE WAS ALL BUNCH OF REASONS DIFFERENT STATED FOR DIFFERENT REASONS, BUT THEY WANTED THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL, AND THE, THE ELECTORS AGREED THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW THE REASON WHY THIS IS COMING FORWARD.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT? 'CAUSE THIS ALWAYS GIVES ME A HEADACHE.
THE QUA, THE QUALIFIED ELECTORS, SPECIFICALLY, WHAT DETERMINES THE QUALIFIED ELECTORS? THOSE ARE THE, THE VOTERS THAT ARE QUALIFIED TO VOTE.
SO IT COULD BE, IF YOU'RE IN DISTRICT ONE, YOU WOULDN'T BE A QUALIFIED ELECTOR FOR DISTRICT NUMBER FOUR ELECTION.
DO THEY HAVE TO BE REGISTERED VOTERS? THEY HAVE TO BE REGISTERED.
THEY HAVE TO BE REGISTERED VOTERS.
IT'S USED INTERCHANGEABLY LAW, MA'AM.
IT'S USED INTERCHANGEABLY, A REGISTERED AND A QUALIFIED VOTER.
SO PRIOR TO US CHANGING THE TERM LIMITS, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, KAREN, PRIOR TO US CHANGING THE TERM LIMITS, AND I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT THE RECALL WAS BASICALLY BASED UPON, WE HAD THIS BIG ELECTION AND, AND IT WAS A NUMBER THAT HAD TO DO WITH, UH, THE MAYOR'S RACE WAS INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THAT WAS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET ENOUGH SIGNATURES ON A RECALL, TO DO A RECALL.
AND THEN, SO THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION, BUT THEN WE CHANGED THE TERM DATES FOR ELECTIONS.
WHEN WE WENT TO THREE YEAR TERMS, WE CHANGED THOSE DATES AND, AND THE MAYOR WAS IN OFF, AND THE OTHER COUNCIL WAS OFF.
SO WHAT HAPPENS TYPICALLY IS THE MAYORAL ELECTION WILL PULL A LOT OF VOTES.
BUT YOU'LL HAVE SOME DISTRICTS, LIKE OUR DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN DISTRICT ONE, WE MAY NOT HAVE A LOT OF VOTES, YOU KNOW, OR, AND HEATHER'S OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY'S HAPPY.
SO IT WAS, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF VOTES.
AND, BUT THEN YOU GET A POSITION LIKE WE HAD IN THIS ELECT ELECTION WHERE IT OCCURS INTO A, UH, A PRESIDENTIAL YEAR.
THAT'S GONNA BRING PEOPLE TO THE POSE IF THEY ACTUALLY GO ALL THE WAY DOWN THE BALLOT.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE A BIGGER NUMBER.
NOW, I WANT TO PRESET THIS BY SAYING THIS, THOMAS WAS VERY ADAMANT THAT HE WASN'T SUGGESTING TO RECALL ANYBODY.
I ALWAYS WANNA BRING IT UP FRONT THAT HE MADE A NOTE AND GOT ME TO THINK ABOUT IT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS.
AND IN MY OPINION, MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT RECALLS SHOULD ONLY BE FOR SOMETHING VERY EGREGIOUS OR SOMETHING REALLY BAD HAS HAPPENED THAT MAYBE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY UNDER THE LEGAL ACT, UH, FOR BEING UNLAWFUL THAT WOULD GET 'EM REMOVED FROM COUNSEL.
BUT SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IN THE PROCESS.
SO IF YOU GUYS WERE HERE DURING THE SMOKING BAN, MORRIS
SO I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE REALLY EASY TO GET SOMEONE TO RECALL, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE REALLY HARD TO GET SOMEONE TO RECALL EITHER.
SHOULDN'T BE IMPOSSIBLE, NEEDS TO BE A REASONABLE NUMBER OR PERCENTAGE THAT THAT CITIZENS CAN, CAN GO OUT AND, AND DO TO RECALL.
WE WORKED REALLY HARD ON THE PERCENTAGES.
I REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION, CARRIE.
I MEAN, WE WENT THROUGH ALL KIND OF CALCULATIONS AND VARIANCES AND EVERYTHING CAME OUT.
AND THAT'S, AT THE TIME, I DON'T THINK WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THE TIMING OF THE MAYOR'S ELECTION BEING THERE, BUT IT WAS MOSTLY TO GET A NUMBER THAT WAS FAIR ACROSS, AND THAT NUMBER CAME UP WITH THOSE PERCENTAGES ACROSS THOSE ELECTIONS.
AND THEN WE HAD TO SET A MINIMUM NUMBER ON THE MAYOR'S RACE BECAUSE THAT WAS, WE JUST HAD TO HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER.
SO I THOUGHT THEY WERE PRETTY FAIR.
UM, WHAT YEAR WAS THE ONE YOU SAID THERE WAS A RECALL ONE TIME? WHAT YEAR WAS THAT? THAT WAS A RECALL PETITION AND A RECALL ELECTION.
SO THE ELECTION WAS HELD IN MAY, RIGHT? MM-HMM
YOU CANNOT BEGIN THE RECALL PROCESS UNTIL SIX MONTHS HAVE PASSED FROM THE TIME.
SO THE PETITION STARTED, IT WAS VERIF, IT WAS RECEIVED IN NOVEMBER.
IT WAS VERIFIED, I BELIEVE, AT THE BEGINNING OF JANUARY, BECAUSE WE HAVE ONLY 20 DAYS ONCE WE RECEIVED TO VERIFY ALL THE SIGNATURES.
AND THEN WE CALLED THE ELECTION FOR MAY.
THE PROBLEM THAT COMES UP IS, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT KNOW, FOLLOW THE MOVEMENT FROM US FROM MAY TO NOVEMBER, WE CANNOT GET EQUIPMENT
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LEASED FROM HARRIS COUNTY, UM, ON EVEN NUMBERED YEARS.AND SO WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THAT RECALL WERE TWO MAIN THINGS.
ONE, THAT, UM, THE, THE ITEM OR THE REASON FOR THE RECALL OF THAT COUNCIL MEMBER OR MAYOR, SHOULD BE LISTED ON THE PETITION.
ONE, WHICH WAS NOT REQUIRED, AND TWO, THAT WE CHANGED THE LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER TO ALLOW THAT, UH, IF THE PETITION FOR A RECALL IS SUCCESSFUL, THAT THE RECALL ELECTION HAPPENED AT THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED ELECTION, THUS PUTTING US IN NOVEMBER AND NEVER PUTTING US IN A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN'T HOLD AN ELECTION.
AND, AND I HAD FORGOTTEN THAT DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, OUR ELECTIONS WERE IN MAY EVERY YEAR TOO.
SO THAT WAS ANOTHER THING THAT ALL KIND OF, IT JUST KIND OF ALL SHIFTED.
UH, SO, SO WHEN A PETITION IS PRESENTED TO YOU, UM, LETICIA IS, WHEN DOES THE, WHEN DOES THE PERCENTAGE OF ELECT QUALIFIED ELECTORS TAKE PLACE? WHEN IT TURNED IN OR WHEN IT'S WHEN? WHEN IT'S HANDED OUT? SO WE DON'T DO THAT BASED ON THE QUALIFIED ELECTORS.
NOW WE LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF VOTES AT THE LAST ELECTION, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE SIGNED BY QUALIFIED ELECTORS, RIGHT? YES.
SO ONCE THOSE COME IN, UH, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE SAYS THIS 14 POINT OR 11 POINT, YOU KNOW, CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH SIGNATURE IS CORRECT.
SO THE COUNTY UPDATES THAT LIST PRETTY REGULARLY DURING THE COURSE OF A RECALL, DON'T THEY? WELL, YOU'RE, I THINK WE'RE TALKING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST THE NUMBER OF VOTES.
SO WE LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF VOTES THAT ARE THERE.
WE DO LOOK AT THE, THE QUALIFIED VOTERS AS OF THE DATE THAT WE GET THAT RECEIVED THE PETITION.
SO WE'RE COMPARING THE QUALIFIED NUMBER FROM, FROM THE RECEIVING THE NUMBER FROM THE LAST ELECTION.
AND WE'RE COMPARING IT TO THE QUALIFIED VOTERS AT THE CURRENT TIME WHEN WE RECEIVE THE PETITION.
SO YOU DON'T VERIFY THE ACTUAL PETITION SIGNATURES ARE ACTUALLY QUALIFIED VOTERS? WE DO.
THAT'S WHAT THE 11, THERE ARE 13 POINTS THAT EACH SIGNATURE HAS TO MEET.
SO, AND THAT DATE OF THAT QUALIFICATION IS THE DATE THAT THE PETITION'S TURNED BACK INTO YOU.
SO WHENEVER I RECEIVE A PETITION, THE PETITION HAS TO BE COMPLETE.
YOU CAN'T GIVE ME 10 SIGNATURES OR 10 PAGES AND THEN COME BACK AND GIVE ME 15 MORE.
WHAT YOU SUBMIT IS A COMPLETE INSTRUMENT.
ONCE I RECEIVE IT, I PULL A LIST OF REGISTERED VOTERS FROM HARRISON, CHAMBERS COUNTY, DEPENDING ON WHAT JURISDICTION I'M LOOKING AT.
AND THEN STAFF SITS DOWN AND HAS A CHECKLIST.
AND EACH SIGNATURE, WE LOOK AT THE PETITION, WE MAKE SURE THAT THAT PETITION MEETS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CHARTER.
THEN WE IDENTIFY EACH SIGNATURE.
WE VERIFY THAT THEY ARE A REGISTERED VOTER OF THE DISTRICT IN WHICH THEY, UM, THE PETITION IS REGARDING.
SO WE VERIFY EVERY SINGLE THING.
AND WE WENT BACK TO LOOK AT THE PETITION AND WE'LL NOTE ADDRESS WAS INCORRECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, LAST NAME IS DIFFERENT.
WHY IS IT DIFFERENT? OH, WELL, THEY GOT MARRIED HERE AND WE, WE, WE VERIFY EVERYTHING TO THE T BECAUSE I HAVE TO CERTIFY THAT EACH SIGNATURE IS EITHER CORRECT OR INCORRECT.
AND Y IF YOU GIVE ME AN INSTRUMENT AND YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU CAN SUBMIT, YOU KNOW, 800 SIGNATURES.
AND OF THOSE 800 SIGNATURES, ONLY 300 OF THOSE ARE VALID.
I THEN, UH, WRITE YOU A LETTER CERTIFY.
YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU SUBMITTED ENOUGH SIGNATURES, BUT THEY'RE NOT CORRECT SIGNATURES, SO YOU'RE MISSING THIS MANY.
AND THEN THEY HAVE A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD, I THINK IT'S 10 DAYS TO CORRECT, OR TO SUBMIT ADDITIONAL, UH, SIGNATURES.
AND THEN I GO BACK AND CERTIFY IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE RECALL, YEAH, THEY SUBMITTED MORE THAN NO SIGNATURES.
SO I THINK YOU'RE MISSING MY QUESTION.
MY, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS.
MY QUESTION IS FROM THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO DO THE PETITION.
CORRECT? THAT IT IS, IS THAT THE TIME FROM THE TIME YOU GET ISSUED, THE TIME THEY TURN IT IN IS 30 DAYS.
WHAT'S THE, STOP THEM FROM GOING OUT AND HAVE A VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVE DURING THAT 30 DAY PERIOD TO GET, IT TAKES 30 DAYS FOR IT TO BE REGISTERED WITH THE COUNTY.
IT TAKES 30 DAYS FROM THE TIME THAT AN APPLICATION IS RECEIVED BY THE COUNTY TO REGISTER SOMEONE TO VOTE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO, AND THAT'S, IS THAT LOSS UP AT THE CHANGE? I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S, THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR JURISDICTION.
I, I GUESS WHAT STUCK IN MY MIND WITH THIS CONVERSATION THAT'S GOING AROUND STATEWIDE AND IN THE COUNTY OF ALLOWING 24 HOUR VOTER REGISTRATION ALL THE WAY UP AND ON THE DAY OF AN ELECTION, IS THERE'S A POTENTIAL, SHOULD WE DETERMINE, SHOULD WE SET A TIMING SAYING THAT THE, THAT THE DATE OF THE QUALIFIED ELECTORS, I'M JUST ASKING HAS TO BE BASED UPON SOME DAY IN CASE THAT IS, IS THAT A POTENTIAL ISSUE? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
SO IF I RECEIVE A PETITION ON MONDAY AND SOMEONE GETS REGISTERED TUESDAY, YOU KNOW, THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T OF ALL QUALIFIED VOTER MM-HMM
AT THE TIME THAT THEY SIGNED THE
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PETITION.SO THAT SIGNATURE WOULD BE INVALID UNDER CURRENT LAW, UNDER CURRENT COUNTY.
BECAUSE IT, IT'S AT THE, IT'S LIKE A TIMESTAMP.
WHEN YOU SIGN IT, YOU HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THESE QUALIFICATIONS.
SO IF YOU SIGNED IT, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS AGO AND YOU LIVED IN DISTRICT THREE, AND THEN IN THAT TIMEFRAME, YOUR, YOUR CAR, YOUR HOUSE GETS BLOWN UP AND YOU HAVE TO MOVE.
AND YOU'VE PHYSICALLY MOVED AND YOU MOVED ALL YOUR PAPERWORK, AND YOU NOW LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY, THAT'S A PROBLEM.
I I, I'M PRETTY GOOD WITH THE WAY THAT IT'S SET UP RIGHT NOW.
UNLESS SOMEBODY'S GOT A BETTER WAY TO COME UP WITH A CALCULATED NUMBER.
UH, ONE OF THE REASONS WE WENT INSTEAD OF DOING THE PERCENTAGE OF, UH, THE ELECTED, BUT BASED IT UPON THE PREVIOUS, SOME OF THE PREVIOUS ELECTION, WAS THAT TO A DISTRICT THAT I WAS, WE'D HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING 400 SIGNATURES OR 200 SIGNATURES, UH, IN A PROCESS BECAUSE OUR VOTER TURNOUT AT THE TIME, AT THAT TIME WAS PRETTY LOW.
SO THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THAT PERCENTAGE NUMBER CAME IN.
SO I, I WOULD BE HESITANT TO CHANGE THAT TO THAT, TO THAT THRESHOLD ACROSS THE BOARD, UNLESS THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO CALCULATE IT.
THERE IS NOT, CAN WE BEAT THAT HORSE TO DEATH PRETTY GOOD.
CAN, CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THE, ON THE CHART THAT'S UP IN FRONT OF US IS THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF, OF REGISTERED VOTERS, LIKE THE 58 67 ON 11 SEVEN NUMBER OF REGISTERED VOTERS.
AND THAT'S WHERE HE GOT THOSE HIGH PERCENTAGES FROM THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE OF THE REGISTERED VOTERS THAT, THAT SHOW UP.
I, I, I'M, I'M, I'M STRUGGLING ALSO WITH THE CONCEPT THAT WE WANT IT TO BE, YOU HAVE TO WORK AT IT.
YOU CAN'T JUST WILLY-NILLY GO OUT THERE AND GET 10 PEOPLE.
BUT IF YOU SAID 20% OF THAT 6,000 IN DISTRICT FOUR, THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE.
AND IN DISTRICT FIVE, IT WOULD EVEN BE BE 4,000.
HE SAYS THERE WERE 4,000 VOTERS, BUT 20% OF THAT WOULD STILL BE LESS, UH, WOULD BE, UH, 20% OF THE 75 WOULD STILL BE PRETTY, PRETTY BIG.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT BASED ON JUST THE REGISTERED NUMBER OF REGISTERED VOTERS, BECAUSE IT WOULD MAKE THAT, EVEN THAT 20% MIGHT BE A PRETTY BIG LIFT FOR SOMEBODY.
BUT NOW YOU WANT IT TO BE A, LIKE I SAID, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ABLE TO RUN OUT THERE AND GET A RECALL POSITION EVERY FIVE MINUTES.
BUT IF YOU SAY 20%, THAT, THAT, THAT'S QUITE A, QUITE A LOAD OF PEOPLE.
BECAUSE FOR SOMEBODY THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY SHOW UP IN THE LAST ELECTION, 14, 1480 SOMETHING PEOPLE, ALMOST 1500 PEOPLE, HELL, WE HAVEN'T HAD 1400 PEOPLE VOTE IN ANYTHING.
THEY'RE GONNA GO, WHAT? YEAH, WE DID GO BACK AND DO A, A REVIEW OF A VOTER TURNOUT.
WE DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I JUST DID.
IT'S LIKE, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT, WE, WE WERE LOOKING AT LESS THAN 10% FOR MOST, FOR MOST.
WELL, HERE'S SOMETHING I WOULD OFFER.
IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS MAKES SAB ANY BETTER, IF YOU ONLY GET ELECTED BY 260 VOTES.
'CAUSE THAT'S ALL THAT SHOWS UP TO ALEX.
YOU THEN YOU GET RECALLED BY A SMALLER NUMBER OF VOTES, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT ELECTED BY A SMALL NUMBER.
YOU CAN BE RECALLED BY A SMALL NUMBER.
UH, BUT WHEN YOU STICK 'EM WITH A PERCENTAGE OF REGISTERED VOTERS, MAN, THAT'S GONNA, I WOULD THINK THAT MAKES A RECALL IMPOSSIBLE.
'CAUSE DISTRICT THREE AND DISTRICT FIVE WOULD HAVE 1500 JUST, AND THAT'S EVERY, THAT'S, THAT'S ALMOST 15 TIMES WHAT VOTED OR 10 TIMES WHAT VOTED EXACTLY.
WELL, YOU HAVE THE SAME THING TOO.
I MEAN, THAT'D BE ALMOST A THOUSAND VOTES FOR A PETITION.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST TOUGH.
REMEMBER, SAME WITH DISTRICT TWO, YOU'RE NOT ELIMINATING AN ELECTION.
YOU KNOW, THEY RECALL BY, AT A NORMAL ELECTION IS ALWAYS POSSIBLE.
SO I DON'T KNOW A BETTER WAY TO CALCULATE I OTHER THAN I DON'T LIKE THE, THE PER JUST THE PERCENTAGE OFF OF, OF FEDERAL VOTERS.
SO WE'VE DONE A SURVEY LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES, AND WE ARE IN LINE WITH, UM, TWO CITIES.
UH, WE'RE, WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT CONROE DOES AND ALSO WHAT, UM, UH, BRIAN DOES.
SO OURS IS THE EXACT SAME AS THEIRS.
UM, SO THERE'S OTHERS THAT DO PERCENTAGE OF QUALIFIED VOTERS, BUT AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THAT WE'D EVER REACH A THRESHOLD THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO A RECALL ELECTION.
SO, UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD A PROBLEM WITH THIS.
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PROBLEM, WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER IT AGAIN.BUT, UM, THIS IS NOT ANYTHING THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS CHANGING AT THIS POINT, BUT WE'RE HERE FOR YOUR PLEASURE.
CAN WE POCKET IT TILL LATER?
I, I'M OKAY WITH TABLING IT NOW.
I, I THINK THE NUMBER FOR THE MAYORS AS A SET MINIMUM AND THEN THE PERCENTAGES ON THE DEAL IS, UM, IS AS EQUITABLE AS YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO GET, UH, IT, AND EVEN IN A THREE YEAR TERM, YOU'RE PROBABLY ONLY LOOKING AT, BY THE TIME YOU GO THROUGH A RECALL PROCESS, CAN'T DO IT SIX MONTHS AFTER THE ELECTION, THEN YOU GOT ANOTHER ONE, YOU'RE PROBABLY ONLY EIGHT OR NINE MONTHS LEFT IN SOMEONE'S TERM.
ANYWAY, I I, BY THE TIME THEY WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS, BY THE TIME THEY ACTUALLY GOT TO A RECALL VOTE, THEN THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF TIME LEFT ANYWAY.
SO, I MEAN, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO RECALL AT THE BALLOTS.
I WOULD MOVE THAT WE, THAT WE NOT SEND THIS FORWARD.
I'LL SECOND, DID YOU MAKE A MOTION? YES.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES? I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE, UH, MAY BE FOR A FUTURE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT IF WE KEEP NOTES LIKE WE DID LAST TIME ABOUT THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT LATER, THAT MAYBE WE LOOK AT THIS ANOTHER TIME AT ANOTHER PLACE WHERE WE GOT SOME TIME TO STUDY THE NUMBERS.
'CAUSE I, I DON'T, I DON'T, I SEE THE IDEA, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW IN THE WORLD YOU COME UP WITH A BETTER SYSTEM RIGHT NOW.
BUT I MAYBE IF YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT LONG AND HARD, YOU MIGHT COULD, BUT NOT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK.
ANY OTHER ISSUES, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? SO, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO BRING FORWARD AS THE STAFF.
UM, AND SO WE'RE JUST BRINGING THOSE FIVE.
WHEN IS THAT? DO WE HAVE TO BE THERE FOR WHENEVER THAT IS SO THAT IF IT, IF IT PLEASES YOU, WE CAN MOVE ON.
BECAUSE DON'T HAVE TO ITEMS TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE TO HAVE, UM, IN PUBLIC HEARING, PUBLIC FORUM OR SOMETHING.
DON'T WE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC FORUM? PUBLIC HEARINGS.
AND SO, UM, UNDER ITEM TWO B, WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE OUTREACH AND THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, UH, SINCE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE CHARTER AND YOU GUYS HAVE VOTED ON WHAT'S GONNA MOVE FORWARD AND WHAT'S NOT, UM, GET A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
TYPICALLY THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WOULD START IN MARCH.
UM, BUT IF, UM, YOU GUYS ARE COMFORTABLE, WE CAN, UH, HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARINGS IN AT YOUR FEBRUARY MEETING.
UM, AND IN THE MEANTIME, UH, PUT IT OUT ON OUR WEBSITE AND GET THE INFORMATION OUT THROUGH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
WE DID CHECK TO SEE IF WE COULD DO WHAT, UH, MR. MAYO WAS SAYING ABOUT THE OTHER FACEBOOK PAGES.
AND WE, WE CAN'T, BUT, UH, WE WILL TRY AND, UM, BE AS INNOVATIVE AS POSSIBLE WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE, UM, AS, AS IT RELATES TO FACEBOOK AND TWITTER AND, AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.
IT, WE WERE GONNA HAVE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA WEBSITE COORDINATOR COME TALK TO US ABOUT THE STUFF WERE WE NOT, AND I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE HAD SAY.
SHE, UH, WASN'T AVAILABLE TO BE HERE TODAY, BUT SHE SAID THAT WHATEVER, WHATEVER SHE CAN DO TO, UM, TO HELP GET THE WORD OUT, SHE WOULD HAPPILY DO.
UM, I DID SPECIFICALLY ASK IF WE COULD DO LIKE, GET INTO PEOPLE'S NEXT DOORS AND FACEBOOKS AND HARVEST THAT INFORMATION.
AND, AND SHE'S NOT ABLE TO, SHE CAN ONLY CONTROL THOSE PAGES THAT WE CONTROL BECAUSE THERE'S A RECORDS MANAGEMENT COMPONENT THAT COMES IN.
WE HAVE TO COPY ALL OF OUR POSTINGS FOR RECORDS RETENTION AND PUBLIC INFORMATION REASONS.
SO WE DON'T GO INTO OTHER PAGES THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL.
THIS IS ON PUTTING IT OUT IN THE OTHER FACEBOOK TYPE PAGES.
BUT THEY'VE BEEN THINGS THAT WERE DOING THEM, SIR.
SO WE DID, WE DID, UH, TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND, AND WE ASKED AND UM, BECAUSE OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA POLICIES AND OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT POLICIES, AND THEN THE PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST THAT WE, WE COPY EVERYTHING.
WE CONTROL AND ARCHIVE EVERYTHING.
AND WE CAN ONLY DO THAT WITH THINGS THAT ARE OURS.
SO IT'S BASICALLY CITY, CITY, FACEBOOK, WHICH IS A COUPLE OF THOSE.
NOW THERE'S, THERE'S OUR CITY WEBSITE MM-HMM
THE WATER BILL CITY HAS A TWITTER MM-HMM
I DON'T TWEET, SO I DON'T, BUT IT'S ON AND ON INSTAGRAM.
THEY HAVE AN I WE ARE NOT IN TIME.
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WE MISSED THAT.EVERYTHING IS UH, PLANNED OUT FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
YOU HAVE TO GET IN IN LINE AND, UM, THE ALARM SYSTEM STUFF.
THERE, THERE'S NOTHING THAT PREVENTS SOMEONE OBVIOUSLY JUST MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL WOULDN'T HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THAT.
LIKE IF I WANTED TO COPY SOMETHING OFF OF THE CITY, I JUST SHARED IT ON MY PAGE.
IT POSTED ON WE'RE ALL NOSY IN THE BAYTOWN THING.
NOTHING PRECLUDES YOUR FROM YEAH.
BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I THINK YOU GET A LOT OF PEOPLE TO SEE IT.
I KNOW THE CITY, YOU SAID THE REASON YOU GUYS CAN'T DO IT.
BUT THAT DOESN'T KEEP US FROM DOING IT AS A CHARTER MEMBER.
WE WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ARCHIVE ALL THAT TOO IF THEY OH, COPY AND SEND IT TO OTHER PEOPLE FROM OUR PERSONAL, IF THEY'RE DOING IT JUST LIKE THEY'RE DOING IT FOR, IF THE COUNCIL MEMBER DID IT THE SAME, IF YOU TAKE, IF YOU TAKE SOMETHING OFF OF OUR WEBSITE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE CONTROLLED IN A, A COPY OF, IF THEY POST IT ON THEIR SHARING PERSONAL, UH, ON THEIR PERSONAL STUFF AND THEN THERE'S FEEDBACK BACK AND FORTH.
NO, I DON'T THINK, WOULD THERE BE FEEDBACK MR. MAYO? WOULD I NO.
I, THEY, THEY COULD FEEDBACK IT TO DIRECTLY TO THAT WEBSITE.
BUT IF YOU TOLD THEM THAT, THAT LIKE WE ALL KNOW THE BAYTOWN THING, YOU KNOW, DON'T I JUST SAY YOU DON'T FEEDBACK, YOU DON'T REPLY HERE, BUT YOU SHOULD REPLY TO THE CITY OR SOMETHING.
IF THERE'S A WAY TO CANCEL, LIKE WHAT IS IT? THE, I DON'T DUNNO WHAT IT'S CALLED, BUT YOU CAN CANCEL THE COMMENTS.
OH, SO NOBODY COMMENTS? OH YEAH.
YOU'RE JUST POSTING IT AND THEN YEAH, MS. HORNER SAID IF THERE'S NO COMMENTS AND IT'S JUST A POST OF DATA THAT WE HAVE ON OUR SITE, THEN IT'S FINE.
WELL, THAT, THAT WOULD JUST BE A WAY TO GET MORE EXPOSURE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE PRETTY WIDE.
I HAVE QUITE A FEW MEMBERS OF THEM.
WE, WE HAVE ONE FOR PARKWOOD PLACE SUBDIVISION, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE PARKWOOD PLACE AND, UH, SO THERE'S SEVERAL OF 'EM.
I DON'T REALLY GET TO DO MUCH.
I I CAN ASK LILU 'CAUSE SHE KNOWS SOME OF THEM.
SO IF WE DID THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING, THAT'D BE THE FOURTH MONDAY, FEBRUARY, OR THIRD MONDAY, FEBRUARY OR WHATEVER.
AND, AND THEN, UH, AND THEN BASED ON THAT, DO A REPORT.
BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK, THE REPORT WOULD BE COMPILED AND THEN PRESENT THAT TO COUNSEL MARCH.
OR IS THAT TOO EARLY? SO YOU PROBABLY, I WOULD THINK YOU'D WANT TO, UM, MEET AGAIN, MEET AGAIN AFTER YOU GET THE PUBLIC INPUT SO WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
THEN WE COULD BE DONE ABOUT MAY.
THAT, SO DO YOU WANT TO, WHEN IS IT GONNA HIT Y'ALL'S? WHEN IS IT GONNA HIT Y'ALL'S WEBSITES? UH, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO GIVE ME TO THE END OF THE WEEK, SIR.
NOW THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING, WE CAN, UH, WE CAN TRY AND PULL, PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AND, AND, AND, UH, AND GET IT ON THE WEBSITE AND PUT A LITTLE FLYER OR SOMETHING TOGETHER.
SO DO YOU NEED A MOTION? SO MAYBE LIKE NEXT WEEKEND IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO SCAB IT OFF YOUR SITE AND YES SIR.
NEXT WEEKEND WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO THINK ABOUT.
BECAUSE WHATEVER WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE HAVE, UH, SUCH A LARGE POPULATION OF SPANISH SPEAKERS AND IT, A CHARTER AMENDMENT STUFF COULD BE, IS ELECTORAL.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO GET IT TRANSLATED INTO THE FOUR LANG, THE OTHER THREE LANGUAGES.
SO IF I CAN JUST HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NEXT WEEK YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
TO MAKE SURE THAT, WELL, I'M NOT TRYING TO HURRY, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF I'M GONNA DO THIS.
I GOTTA PUT IT ON MY CALENDAR.
YEAH, YOU PROB CHECK IN WITH ME, NOT THIS FRIDAY, BUT NEXT FRIDAY, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE GET IT DESIGNED AND WE GET IT TRANSLATED, UM, ACCURATELY.
SO DID WE EVER POST ANYTHING IN THE BEGINNING TO ASK FOR POSSIBLE CHARTER AMENDMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC SUGGESTIONS COMING IN? I DON'T REMEMBER.
NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, BUT EARLY ON, WAS THAT EVER SENT OUT? NO.
TYPICAL, TYPICALLY WHAT DO IS, UH, ONCE YOU, WELL JUST, I WENT OFF OF WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST MM-HMM
WE, YOU GUYS GO THROUGH IT AND ONCE YOU HAVE IT, THAT THEN WE PUT IT OUT AND SAY, OKAY.
AND START ACCEPTING COMMENTS FROM THE, FROM THE TIME THAT YOU APPROVE THE ITEMS THAT YOU WANNA PUT IN YOUR REPORT TO THE TIME THAT YOU RECEIVE INPUT.
AND BASED ON THAT, YOU COMPILE THAT INTO YOUR FINAL REPORT, YOU KNOW, YOUR OUTREACH AND YOUR RESPONSES.
SO GENERICALLY YOU WOULD PUT THESE FIVE ITEMS IN THAT ARE GOING FORWARD IN THERE.
AND SO AT OUR FEBRUARY MEETING, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, YOU'RE GONNA HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
AND THEN I WILL PRESENT YOU ANY INFORMATION THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ON, UM, OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS.
AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE THE OUTREACH WITH YOU, YOU DECIDE, YES, WE'RE FINE WITH THESE FIVE OR, AND YOU KNOW, LET'S WRITE THE REPORT AND LET'S, LET'S, YOU KNOW, LET'S
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GET HER DONE.BUT IF YOU GET THERE AND YOU HAVE FEEDBACK AND EVERYONE'S LIKE, ABSOLUTELY NOT, I DON'T EVEN WANNA LOOK AT THIS ONE.
AND YOU GET A REALLY, YOU KNOW.
SO THEN IN MARCH IS WHEN WE'RE GONNA JUST TALK WITH US AND SAY, OKAY, THESE ARE THE ONES WE'RE GOING FOR SURE.
BY MARCH WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE THE UH, UM, YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A REPORT PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU GUYS TO, I LOOKING TO TAKE THIS, GET THE THEORY AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING COULD BE THE POTENTIAL THAT THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER POSSIBLE CHARTER AMENDMENT BROUGHT UP THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO DISCUSS GOING FORWARD IN THEORY.
IS THAT RIGHT? YES, I'M GUESSING SO.
IF YOU GET SOMEONE, LIKE I SAID, AND THEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS FEEL REALLY STRONGLY ABOUT, BUT IF YOU GET OUT OF YOUR PUBLIC HEARING, THEN YOU RECEIVE THE PUBLIC, UH, INPUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS WE RECEIVE AND YOU DECIDE, OKAY, WE'RE DONE, LET'S DO THE REPORT.
THEN WE'D HAVE THE REPORT AVAILABLE OKAY.
AND THEN ONCE THAT'S APPROVED, THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN WOULD BE.
WHO'S GONNA PRESENT IT, HOW IS IT GONNA PRESENT IT? HOW DO YOU, YOU KNOW, THOSE DETAILS.
I'D LIKE TO WRAP IT UP BY MAY BEFORE WE GET INTO THE SUMMER BREAK.
AND WE LOSE EVERYBODY FOR REAL.
SO FEBRUARY, YEAH, THE, UH, FEBRUARY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE YOUR PUBLIC HEARING AND UM, BY, LIKE I SAID, NEXT WEEK I'LL HAVE THE FLYER AND THE FOUR LANGUAGES AND THE WEBPAGE AND WE'LL DO THAT.
DO WE HAVE THAT DATE? WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW MY ANNIVERSARY.
SAY, HEY BABE, HERE'S YOUR ANNIVERSARY.
SO JANUARY ONE, TWO, IT'S THE 22ND.
OH, SO THEY CHANGED THE FOURTH THOUGH, OR? I'VE ALWAYS BEEN THE FOURTH.
YEAH, THERE'S REALLY GOOD DEAL.
NOW, FEBRUARY 22ND AT FIVE 30 IS YOUR NEXT CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING.
AND IT WILL BE, BEGIN WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL HAVE TO SHOW UP FOR THAT.
DO IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, THEN YOU CAN ADJOURN.
ANY MORE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, SUGGESTIONS? NOPE.